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Nov 9 2019 - UTAH JAZZ vs TORONTO RAPTORS CGT

Jazz4ever said:
Kanter's mid range game has improved and has also added the hook shot to his repertoire. His turnover rate is much better than last year. Counting this game Kanter is over 90% on free throws compared to 80% last year.
Favors has always been a player we knew would require a good PG to be effective...we currently have the worse PG rotation in the league.
Burks was putting up around a 20 PER the first few games at SG (compared to 11 last year). Asking him to play PG has hurt his play recently but Burke will be back soon.
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Kanter's jumpshot has improved, but his overall scoring efficiency is way down. He was scoring more efficiently when he was in the post. Yes he is spacing the court better now, but he seriously needs to be in the post a lot more than he is.

PER, as Hollinger himself has admitted, is skewed to favor higher USG%'s and volume, and of course both of those have gone up this year for Burks. I guess you could argue that it also shows he's being more aggressive than in prior years, though.
 
Guys don't forget there is talent on this team. There just isn't enough. When we pick up a good draft pick and FA all the nay sayers will be singing a different tune about Kanter.
 
Stoked said:
Hayward is excelling and Burks is showing growth in the 6th man role. Kanter is an elite offensive rebounder, Gobert is a rebounding shot altering force. Favors and Kanter assist at a decent rate so far. Kanter has had a high FG and FT % until this last game. Favors has decent rebounding. Hayward and Burks continue to assist at a decent rate despite having **** talent around them outside the bigs.

But hey the sky is falling. Make sure you get all the pieces.
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Please step down from your moderator position and delete your account. Logic is not welcome on this board. I'm disappointed by the effort shown at times, but as you pointed out, the core4 are showing progress in their first (outside of Hayward) experience as starters and/or playing heavy minutes. This was the first road trip of the season and a 4-in-5 nights one at that. Utah has found a hidden gem in Gobert. I'm really eager to see if he can develop into the 3rd big. Jazz DO need a couple of shooters and hopefully that comes via Burke and the draft pick. Could also come via trade or in free agency. I, for one, hope Lindsey and Greg just sit tight. Now is NOT the time to fire Corbin or look for a trade. Not when other teams are surprisingly winning (Boston, Philly) and the Jazz look destined for a top-3 pick. Couldn't have asked for a better (worse) situation than a brutal early schedule and an injury at the weakest position on the team.
 
fishonjazz said:
Also one of those shots was a buzzer beater from about 70 feet that almost went in.... so he really only had 9 field goal atempts which was by far the least of the core 4
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When Burks plays an important role on a winning team, I'll admit that I'm wrong. He has shown recently that he does not play with teammates well. I have to admit that he has played some decent defense in some stints, that he can get to the rim very well, and that he is shooting unbelievably poorly (almost like something is wrong).
 
On a positive note, Hayward is rebounding much better than he ever has. I always got pissed at him for rebounding so poorly. He's also getting in to passing lanes a bit more.
 
I'm not down on the C4. A decrease in efficiency was expected with the massive increase in the roles.

The two biggies are stupid, lazy pass turnovers, and coaching. Players can work on the first.

Corb has got to go guys. This is rock bottom and it's not working. Even if you're a Corbin fan you can admit it isn't working for him or for us. Unless you are his agent depending on his paychecks it's time to let go.
 
cyclo said:
When Girly Hayward is your best player, you know you're up to your neck in doo doo.
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Hayward saw this and text me. He's crying really hard. His hot gf had to wipe his tears with benjamins. True story.
 
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AKMVP said:
You being plain homer. I wonder what you would say if Kanter would be Lithuanian and playing for Toronto and JV would be Turkish and playing for Jazz. Don't bother I know the answer....
Fact is - they are both good exciting young NBA players. Neither is superior at this point although they do have some advantages in particular aspects of the game. So you posting nonsense like above just shows how badly biased you are.
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They are not on the same level right now and never will be, even without being on shape Kanter is putting down superior numbers meanwhile JV can not even score 10 points a game in Toronto. you can compare Kanter to BIGTIME players like AL-Jefferson but JV is never on this league and never will be.

That has nothing to do with nationality, my favorite BIG-MAN is BIG-AL and dude is from the united states and has proven his inside presence.

If Kanter can get in shape and start rebounding like he did before,get his tremendous strength back, draw more contact with his Back-To-the basket game, playing harder defense and running the floor like he did earlier, than their is no limit for his potential.
 
Haven't read the whole thread, but the bright spot was free throws. 83% as a team.

TO's were down to 14 from 20. Only shot 16% from 3, but 44% overall.
 
Sneakers said:
I'm not down on the C4. A decrease in efficiency was expected with the massive increase in the roles.

The two biggies are stupid, lazy pass turnovers, and coaching. Players can work on the first.

Corb has got to go guys. This is rock bottom and it's not working. Even if you're a Corbin fan you can admit it isn't working for him or for us. Unless you are his agent depending on his paychecks it's time to let go.
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This isn't rock bottom - rock bottom will be on Monday when they lose like this at home to The Nuggets.
 
CAKAR said:
They are not on the same level right now and never will be, even without being on shape Kanter is putting down superior numbers meanwhile JV can not even score 10 points a game in Toronto. you can compare Kanter to BIGTIME players like AL-Jefferson but JV is never on this league and never will be.
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So all gold medals and MVP titles of international championships JV won means nothing even if Kanter never won anything ( well he won one MVP title and 1 bronze medal compared to 3 golds, 3 mvp titles and 1 silver for JV )? Europe basketball media experts who voted him two years in a row as best European young player ( ahead of Kanter ) are stupid and know nothing about basketball?
It is just impossible to have normal discussion with you when you ignore facts and trying to base your opinion on 7 games in regular season.
 
candrew said:
This isn't rock bottom - rock bottom will be on Monday when they lose like this at home to The Nuggets.
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nah... that would be not even close to rock bottom. Breaking all time Jazz worst start would be rock bottom. We still have 5 games to reach that.
 
fallenchicken said:
I don't understand how we're blaming this on Hayward and Burks. But OKAY.

RAGE RAGE.
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No one is blaming the whole thing on these guys. It's more on how each player is playing. I haven't been impressed with Burks, but he might thrive with a decent PG and shooters. Hayward has been more than impressive to me so far. He's averaging 21, 6.5, & 4 (with abysmal shooters) over his last five games on nearly fifty percent shooting while still struggling a bit with his three point shot. I also saw him be very aggressive tonight trying for steals and getting into passing lanes. He ended up with 4 steals. He's getting paid next year. Book it!
 
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