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[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807275 said:
one could argue that you're not a centrist on those issues. I think you're more of a right-leaning libertarian that thinks these particular issues should just be absent of government. You consistently support peeling back the State, which is a core right-wing position. And, it is my opinion that you've been wagging the right-wing dogma extra hard lately. It probably isn't a coincidence that this happened as you were given surveilling powers (limited as they may be).

I can see why you would think that. But I can assure you it is coincidence.

If thinking you can better decide if you should marry a man, smoke weed, attend a private school, refuse your business to some... better than I, or society in general, can is right wing then so be it. But you have to give me points that at least I am consitent in it.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807293 said:
1. That's about as strong and unkind a reading as you could take. I'm not surprised you've rushed in to take it.

There's ample room in my comments for the following scenario:
PKM to believe he is a centrist.
For PKM to articulate his positions with that identity in mind
For me to say, "no, this isn't the behavior of a centrist."

^actually, this is exactly my position. I don't think PKM is a liar. I just don't think he's a centrist, and I don't think it's fair or helpful for him to call himself one.

2. I answered this in my comments about conspicuous absence. Stoked swung and missed.

lol, if different people keep coming to you and saying the same things over and over, than maybe, just maybe there is a reason for it. This theme has repeated itself in numerous threads.

But you are entitled to your opinion. Even when they are largely panned by your audience.
 
lol, if different people keep coming to you and saying the same things over and over, than maybe, just maybe there is a reason for it. This theme has repeated itself in numerous threads.

But you are entitled to your opinion. Even when they are largely panned by your audience.

now that I have your attention, I think you might also be interested to know that you also had ZERO comments in this thread (pre-bump). Curious, amiright?
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807305 said:
now that I have your attention, I think you might also be interested to know that you also had ZERO comments in this thread (pre-bump). Curious, amiright?

Until you bumped this the final post was 12/06/11. I joined 12/13/11. Truly, truly curious.
 
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[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807212 said:
And, PKM is on here trying to prove points all the time. Sometimes you have to evaluate a person's credibility before you consider the points they make. Are they really who they say they are?

His absence in this thread is ONE BIT OF EVIDENCE that it's dishonest for him to paint himself a centrist (an identity that he uses as a wedge in almost every politically charged conversation in which I've seen him participate).

[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807293 said:
1. That's about as strong and unkind a reading as you could take. I'm not surprised you've rushed in to take it.

There's ample room in my comments for the following scenario:
PKM to believe he is a centrist.
For PKM to articulate his positions with that identity in mind
For me to say, "no, this isn't the behavior of a centrist."

^actually, this is exactly my position. I don't think PKM is a liar. I just don't think he's a centrist, and I don't think it's fair or helpful for him to call himself one.

2. I answered this in my comments about conspicuous absence. Stoked swung and missed.

Pretty straight forward. If you didn't mean something, don't say it.

Go ahead and neg me, I don't really care. Just make up your mind on what you think and stick with it. If you think he's a liar, own up to it.
It's like you don't really believe any of your schtick and forget what you said as you try to stir the pot and start arguments.

embarrassing really
 
Pretty straight forward. If you didn't mean something, don't say it.

Go ahead and neg me, I don't really care. Just make up your mind on what you think and stick with it. If you think he's a liar, own up to it.
It's like you don't really believe any of your schtick and forget what you said as you try to stir the pot and start arguments.

embarrassing really

I don't believe he is a liar. I never said he was. Sticking to that.

(^You're too old to backpeddle like this. It might be time for another sabbatical.)
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807311 said:
lol.... why does it feel like you've been here forevar?

Because I am one of the most active posters on the board I'd guess.

As for this movement (what I remember anyways) is that they were protesting a number of issues. It was not one unified movement. They had every right to protest and I am glad that they did and got their voices heard. Some of the police reaction to it was heavy handed (depending on the city), or at least appeared to be.

Unlike this protest they blocked off businesses and roadways. There was also reports of numerous crimes amoung the protestors themselves, from assault to drug use. This only further amplified the police reaction, as it should have imo. They were also wide spread geographically and not in one condensed spot like this BLM/Bundy feud has been. Some where peaceful (Portland) and some where not (Oakland)
 
stoked, dont feed the troll anymore
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807319 said:
I don't believe he is a liar. I never said he was. Sticking to that.

(^You're too old to backpeddle like this. It might be time for another sabbatical.)

How is that a backpeddle?
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807185 said:
This morning I took a few minutes to look for 20+ page threads without a single comment from PKM. Found this one.

He is more in the mood for "Occupy Fed Space" these days.
 
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Because I am one of the most active posters on the board I'd guess.

As for this movement (what I remember anyways) is that they were protesting a number of issues. It was not one unified movement. They had every right to protest and I am glad that they did and got their voices heard. Some of the police reaction to it was heavy handed (depending on the city), or at least appeared to be.

Unlike this protest they blocked off businesses and roadways. There was also reports of numerous crimes amoung the protestors themselves, from assault to drug use. This only further amplified the police reaction, as it should have imo. They were also wide spread geographically and not in one condensed spot like this BLM/Bundy feud has been. Some where peaceful (Portland) and some where not (Oakland)

FWIW, there's every reason to believe that the government infiltrated the Occupy scenes. You've appeared sympathetic to the idea that the government has infiltrated militias on their way to Bundy, so you should be careful about how you critique the movement.

And, FWIW, the police in Oakland were incredibly brutal. Way beyond most crackdowns; and most believe them to be way out of step with any inherent violence within the movement.
 
Pretty straight forward. If you didn't mean something, don't say it.

Go ahead and neg me, I don't really care. Just make up your mind on what you think and stick with it. If you think he's a liar, own up to it.
It's like you don't really believe any of your schtick and forget what you said as you try to stir the pot and start arguments.

embarrassing really

How is that a backpeddle?

seriously? Go find where I called PKM a liar. Then, tell my where Spazz is coming up with any of the **** he's saying right now. Srs.
 
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[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807327 said:
FWIW, there's every reason to believe that the government infiltrated the Occupy scenes. You've appeared sympathetic to the idea that the government has infiltrated militias on their way to Bundy, so you should be careful about how you critique the movement.

And, FWIW, the police in Oakland were incredibly brutal. Way beyond most crackdowns; and most believe them to be way out of step with any inherent violence within the movement.

It would not surprise me. Keep in mind I just did this off the top of my head and it happened 2 years ago. I already said that some of the responses where heavy handed, the Oakland response is a perfect example.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807334 said:
seriously? Go find where I called PKM a liar. Then, tell my where Spazz is coming up with any of the **** he's saying right now. Srs.

Yes seriously. Triangle called you out for calling PKM a liar. You said you didn't and he said you did. I am not saying you did or did not. I just do not see a "backpeddle" by Triangle. He seems to have stuck to his guns, right or wrong.
 
Yes seriously. Triangle called you out for calling PKM a liar. You said you didn't and he said you did. I am not saying you did or did not. I just do not see a "backpeddle" by Triangle. He seems to have stuck to his guns, right or wrong.

Stop being a weak tool for 5 minutes. Okay. Now go look at today's posts in this thread. Okay. Now you can have your own opinion about what I said!!! Now, with that opinion, you can answer your own question about the backpeddle!!!

Teach a man to fish....
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807354 said:
Stop being a weak tool for 5 minutes. Okay. Now go look at today's posts in this thread. Okay. Now you can have your own opinion about what I said!!! Now, with that opinion, you can answer your own question about the backpeddle!!!

Teach a man to fish....

It is not a back pedal. He still claims you did! He might be wrong but that is not a backpedal. That would imply that he tried to distance himself or retract from what he said and he has not.

While you are in a teaching mood try teaching yourself the meaning of backpedal.

back-ped·al

1. to retreat from or reverse one's previous stand on any matter; shift ground: to back-pedal after severe criticism.
 
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