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stitches said:
Oh come on... we gave him the best offer. He snubbed us for Europe.

edit: BTW, I recently visited Barcelona for a week. Wow! What a city! I absolutely understand him wanting to play and live there...
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He snubbed the NBA. It's not relevant to the point you're trying to make.
 
stitches said:
The right question is... if we trade for Giannis, would he rather play with Lauri Markkanen and Brandon Ingram or would he rather us have the assets we would spend for Ingram to trade for another player that best fits with Giannis and Lauri?
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For the price Ingram might come at you aren’t getting a better player. That’s a big part to the appeal of trading for Ingram right now.
 
Elizah Huge said:
If we’re trading for Giannis and it’s a done deal do you think he would rather play with Brandon Ingram and Lauri Markkanen or just Lauri Markkanen?
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Ingram is a poor value/money proposition. Having three of them immediately puts you in the second apron with a very limited ability to add quality role players. You essentially suggest replicating the current Suns.

The second apron has really changed everything. Going forward, the contenders will try to build around two stars + a mix of quality vets and young players on rookie contracts. Players like Ingram will be hit by this new reality the hardest.
 
Elizah Huge said:
If we’re trading for Giannis and it’s a done deal do you think he would rather play with Brandon Ingram and Lauri Markkanen or just Lauri Markkanen?
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How many players actually want to play with BI? He’s the dribble dribble shoot guy with no defense. Hes not as good as his stats show and isn’t a winner.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
You are becoming the master at putting weird *** arguments in places that aren’t there. I’ve laid out where I am very clearly. If you don’t understand where I am it’s an issue on your end. No where in this part of the discussion did I say trade Lauri. I’ve entertained the idea at other times… just like you have. The ideal path is to draft in the top 5 with Lauri.

You are overly concerned with being right or wrong and keeping score… this playing both sides thing you keep trying to push on me is weird. There is nuance to these things… this isn’t some political issue where I have to vote and choose a side lol.
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Bottle up that emotion for the next podcast.
 
Hypothetically curious only, but what is the maximum that the Jazz get for Lauri in a trade

2024 17th pick, 2027 pick protection removals, 2029, 2031 unprotected, 2 pick swaps and Austin Reeves. That would be super tempting.

I would be inclined to do that and just tank. Trade off Collins to the Suns for their pick (you end up doubling the return on the Donovan trade from the assets you got from the previous trade which is crazy to think about), and Jordan Clarkson to the Bucks and so on.
 
whatthe said:
Hypothetically curious only, but what is the maximum that the Jazz get for Lauri in a trade

2024 17th pick, 2027 pick protection removals, 2029, 2031 unprotected, 2 pick swaps and Austin Reeves. That would be super tempting.

I would be inclined to do that and just tank. Trade off Collins to the Suns for their pick (you end up doubling the return on the Donovan trade from the assets you got from the previous trade which is crazy to think about), and Jordan Clarkson to the Bucks and so on.
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That’s an awful trade.
 
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