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Offensive Behavior

What if some sex offender flashed his stuff to a group of elementary kids, and one of them was your kid? Should offense be taken?

What if you're walking with your wife or hubby somewhere and someone calls them fat and a ho? Should offense be taken?

I see Hopper's point and I know why he made the thread. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have made anything from the Booze article, and I knew I would get smashed for my reaction, but it's what I felt, so I posted it. In a perfect world, I think a lot of people would just let things go, but there are things that get our emotions going and get the best of us.
 
moevillini said:
Not when it's done in the appropriate place. The community designates certain places as being appropriate for that. If you want to find a community where you can piss on the sidewalk, what's stopping you? But if you're choosing to be a part of a society that frowns upon that sort of thing, don't be surprised when you're punished for it.
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Hopper said:
I know what you're trying to say here, Colton, and I don't entirely disagree. But it's a fine line which presupposes some objective standard for "offensive." If, as you suggest, people are not being offended, why in the world would any intervention be required? I see a guy pissin on the sidewalk at night, so what? He's not bothering me or anyone else. Am I supposed to go lecture him and tell him to immediately desist? Who's he hurting? Is there something inherently offensive about taking a piss when you have to?
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Hopper said:
Well, Mo, I'm not sure if you're missing my point, or simply disagree with it.
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I disagree.

TICC said:
And? To a point, I'm with aint on this one. If peeing on the sidewalk hurts no one (the overwhelming smell of piss on our streets may actually hurt people), what's the big deal?
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That's probably part of the reason you enjoy living in the woods by yourself.

I'm not sure how much of this discussion is jazzfanz/message board related and how much is intended to reflect on society in general. Doesn't matter - in general I support the concept of community standards that proscribe public urination. Just like I support the notion that folks shouldn't walk around in public without their clothes, or fornicate in public just as a couple of additional examples.
 
Hopper said:
But I'm talking about this "I'm an emotional cripple and you must therefore respect that and NEVER do anything which would "hurt my feelings" mentally. Not to be confused with physical attacks.
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Alright, I figured as much. However, as pointed out before, we are, as people (indeed, as living, breathing creatures) ruled by emotion, and the manipulation of these emotions can often lead to some hurtful behaviors (both to ourselves and others). Of course, it would be great of we could all transcend our emotions into a state of fully rational thoughts and actions, but, alas, that will never happen. Sometimes, we can't help but be offended, even if the offense given is in word alone.

With that said, I make a concerted effort to not be offended by behaviors that truly hurt no one. I try to be critical of my assessments of the damage done by others actions, and then try to make appropriate changes to my responses to these actions.

It would be completely disingenuous of me to do otherwise, as at least one of my completely harmless (at least to others) regular behaviors has been deemed illegal, and millions of people have had their lives ruined as a result of these irrational, hurtful laws.
 
TICC said:
Alright, I figured as much. However, as pointed out before, we are, as people (indeed, as living, breathing creatures) ruled by emotion, and the manipulation of these emotions can often lead to some hurtful behaviors (both to ourselves and others). Of course, it would be great of we could all transcend our emotions into a state of fully rational thoughts and actions, but, alas, that will never happen. Sometimes, we can't help but be offended, even if the offense given is in word alone.

With that said, I make a concerted effort to not be offended by behaviors that truly hurt no one. I try to be critical of my assessments of the damage done by others actions, and then try to make appropriate changes to my responses to these actions.

It would be completely disingenuous of me to do otherwise, as at least one of my completely harmless (at least to others) regular behaviors has been deemed illegal, and millions of people have had their lives ruined as a result of these irrational, hurtful laws.
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+1. Well said.
 
prodigal punk said:
So, it would be great if we were Vulcan? Well, I'm offended.
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I don't know if I agree with my initial statement, actually. Irrational feelings and actions make life interesting (and, to be gay, beautiful). I don't care to be an android.
 
I've never been warned on this board for "personal attacks," although there have been times, in the course of arguments or debates, when I have said things to other posters that are far from flattering. I have no interest in attacking others, although I may often "attack" their ideas.

I guess what kinda bothers me is that all "kidding," which is generally an important part of any meaningful and close relationship with another person, becomes taboo just because someone who has nothing to do with the relationship thinks the person you're kidding has the "right" and, therefore the duty, to complain and seek protection.
 
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Hopper said:
I guess what kinda bothers me is that all "kidding," which is generally a important part of any meaningful and close relationship with another person, becomes taboo just because someone who has nothing to do with the relationship thinks the person you're kidding has the "right" and, therefore the duty, to complain and seek protection.
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Most of the time, those people should mind their own ****ing business. Douche bags.

Sometimes, however, we're blind to how our "kidding" hurts others, and having it pointed out helps our relationship(s).
 
Archie Moses said:
Just because we don't think much of each doesn't mean we can't agree on anything.
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I actually sorta agreed with you on the whole transgender/homo thing, but didn't feel motivated to step in and defend you.

You know, because you're a jackass.
 
TICC said:
I actually sorta agreed with you on the whole transgender/homo thing, but didn't feel motivated to step in and defend you.

You know, because you're a jackass.
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Well, I'd rather be a jackass than a hippy, non-shaving Paul Bunyan wannabee, arrogant, weed blitzing, shack in the middle of woods living, Canadian, hockey fan. But that's just me. Oh, no offense, btw.
 
Archie Moses said:
Well, I'd rather be a jackass than a hippy, non-shaving Paul Bunyan wannabee, arrogant, weed blitzing, shack in the middle of woods living, Canadian, hockey fan. But that's just me. Oh, no offense, btw.
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That's overkill, Archie. Simply pointing out that he's a damn hoser is more than sufficient to utterly crush him and destroy all his credibility.
 
TICC said:
Time to reexamine my opinion. I'm clearly on the wrong path.
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Hopper said:
As an aside, I can't BELIEVE my "rep power" is still at zero!

They don't have negative ratings, is that it?
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On a "feel good" note, I don't think you have deserved any deducts, so far. I will only deduct for "jailhouse tats and cornrole" posts and ****** trade ideas. Oh, and having Archie agree with you.
 
YB85 said:
On a "feel good" note, I don't think you have deserved any deducts, so far. I will only deduct for "jailhouse tats and cornrole" posts and ****** trade ideas. Oh, and having Archie agree with you.
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+1. Well said. More than likely, you are probably wrong if I agree with you. I mean after all, what can I say? hehepeepeecaca!
 
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