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Offer to Cavs for #1 is to draft Wiggins not Parker

LazyD said:
The key is to just get Wiggins. Get him, bank on his development, and eventually he will be the max guy that can lead the team to titles. No one else matters much at this point if the Jazz are convinced he's gonna be the man.

Also, if the Jazz pull this off, it increases the odds of having a good pick next year imo.

If I were Cleveland, I wouldn't do it. I am a huge fan of Wiggins.
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im feelin you on this bro.

(i hope it feels good having me feelin you, i sure feels good on my end.


p.s. im purty drunken)
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Maybe they could pull this deal off and Sign Gortat for 3 years.

Burke - Clarkson (#23) - Garrett
Wiggins - Burks
Hayward - Marvin?
Kanter - Jarnell Stokes(#35) - Evans
Gortat - Gobert
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wiggins is a sf, not sg

also kanter/gortat front court is the worst defensively in the league....
 
Doublea said:
Sounds like the 76ers, magic, and jazz have all called the cavs too see what it would take. It seems like favors and #5 is the highest offer.
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We can offer more than all of those teams, it's not really close tbh. The only team that could outbid us is Minnesota with Love, but only if he agrees to an extension before hand. And I don't think he would, wants to go to a contender.
 
4th or 5th pick is kinda the sweet spot for the cavs. The 2nd and 3rd best prospects in the draft (parker and exum) don't seem to fit the cavs current team.
 
bovice said:
wiggins is a sf, not sg

also kanter/gortat front court is the worst defensively in the league....
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I think Wiggins is sf majority of his career, but he'd be pretty overmatched in the strength department initially.
 
I posted this Cavs, Wolves, & Jazz Manaj on Realgm board and it seems like a good trade for everyone involved and so far people seem to be on board. I think its great. Thoughts?

This three way is being discussed in different areas so I thought I'd compile it and see everyone's thoughts. I think it's great for all parties involved.



Jazz out: #5 & Derrick Favors

Jazz In: #1, Jarrett Jack, Anderson Varejao


Cavs out: #1, Jarrett Jack, Anderson Varejao, Mem 2015 1st, & 2015 Cle/Chi 2015 1st

Cavs in: Kevin Love & Derrick Favors


Minnesota out: Kevin Love

Minnesota in: #5, Mem 2015 1st, & Cle/Chi 2015 1st


Why for the Jazz? They get their guy in Wiggins and continue the rebuild.

Why for the Cavs? They go for it. With a core of Kyrie, Love, and Favors they will easily entice either LeBron or Melo to sign there making them an ECF team minimum.

Why for Minny? They go into rebuild and get a top 5 pick in a great draft.
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https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1328682
 
I'm kind of not interested in trying to get veterans to help out next year if this trade indeed happens. I think if you have Wiggins you're set once he hones his skills. Might as well suck next year too and get a really high pick. Jazz won't get very far unless Wiggins is leading them, and he wouldn't be ready to do it next year.

But this is probably an impossible sell. I mean, this season was pretty ****ty.
 
I really have no feeling for Wiggins, but he's obviously not a Lebron or Durant styled sure thing with crazy measurables or verifiable performance. (He's athletic, yes, but he's not a 6'10" 3 who can score at will, or a Lebron who is a once in a generation physical marvel). I'll support DL in his choice, but Favors is a lot to give up for him in my opinion.
 
Minnesota gets the short end of that trade. They are giving up the best player, but don't get the #1 pick? I also think that Minnesota wants some veterans or at least young guys who have a couple solid years under their belts.
 
billyshelby said:
I really have no feeling for Wiggins, but he's obviously not a Lebron or Durant styled sure thing with crazy measurables or verifiable performance. (He's athletic, yes, but he's not a 6'10" 3 who can score at will, or a Lebron who is a once in a generation physical marvel). I'll support DL in his choice, but Favors is a lot to give up for him in my opinion.
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Yeah, but the thing is, he is a physical marvel.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
Minnesota gets the short end of that trade. They are giving up the best player, but don't get the #1 pick? I also think that Minnesota wants some veterans or at least young guys who have a couple solid years under their belts.
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Love may be the better player but he is on a one year contract and forcing his way out thereby dropping their leverage.
 
LazyD said:
Yeah, but the thing is, he is a physical marvel.
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He looks the part, yes. But Durant destroyed college. Lebron didn't get the chance, but I would have bet he would. Wiggins got the chance, and didn't destroy college.

I just feel like sure fire #1 picks should destroy college. He probably will be great, but I'm not sure "probably" makes giving up Favors worth it.
 
People proposing Lebron signs with Cleveland have quickly forgotten Dan Gilbert's open letter and Lebron's strong dislike of the man that came with that.

Lebron's not signing there.
 
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billyshelby said:
He looks the part, yes. But Durant destroyed college. Lebron didn't get the chance, but I would have bet he would. Wiggins got the chance, and didn't destroy college.

I just feel like sure fire #1 picks should destroy college. He probably will be great, but I'm not sure "probably" makes giving up Favors worth it.
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He played very well last season. He does things only a handful of people on the planet can do.

So even if he's "probably" gonna be great, that's not worth giving up Favors? I think it's safe to assume Favors is far less likely to be great at this point.
 
billyshelby said:
He looks the part, yes. But Durant destroyed college. Lebron didn't get the chance, but I would have bet he would. Wiggins got the chance, and didn't destroy college.

I just feel like sure fire #1 picks should destroy college. He probably will be great, but I'm not sure "probably" makes giving up Favors worth it.
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I do agree in a sense, but he flat out picked the wrong damn college. Kansas coach wanted to make a point of "this is my ****** team" not Andrew Wiggins team. I think theres something to this.

Also, I am convinced that Andrew is more like LeBron than Kobe in that he wants to make the right play. There are plenty of times that he could have just taken contested jumpers but he wanted to make the right plays.
 
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