OFFICIAL GAME THREAD PRE-SEASON VS BLAZERS 8PM MT

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

A few early takes:

** The starters will in all likelihood be Hill/Hood/Hayward/Favors/Gobert.
** Hayward and Favors look like they may have taken another step. They're physically very ready. Gobert looks good too.
** The starters looked pretty good together and jumped out to a 13-2 lead before the first substitution.
** This is where things get fuzzy. It's not clear what the rotations will be outside the starters.
** Joe Johnson doesn't have a clearly defined role yet. He doesn't know where he's going and what he's doing yet.
** Dante Exum is still getting his sea legs under him, but appears to be ahead of Mack and Neto in the rotation.

 

[GVC]

Lots of laziness tonight. The Jazz aren't a sharp team. Hopefully that will improve during the season but it's been a persistent problem.

I'm not knowledgeable enough about the intricacies/nuances of NBA offenses, but the difference between the sophistication and execution of off-ball action/screens between the Jazz and Blazers was startling. Jazz offense still looks like the same rudimentary garbage Quin started implementing 2 years ago; Jazz players continue to go around off-ball screens (when there are any) at half-speed. Worrisome.

 

[Zapper7246]

George Hill will demonstrate why he's going to be the starter for at least this year, expecting Exum to be running around like a chook with its head chopped off for the first 20-25 games

Hill didn't play all that great but nailed Dante's game right on the head tonight.


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[Zapper7246]

Life without Steve Brown has been the highlight of the season so far.

Pretty sure I heard his voice on the pregame intro.


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[KqWIN]

I'm not knowledgeable enough about the intricacies/nuances of NBA offenses, but the difference between the sophistication and execution of off-ball action/screens between the Jazz and Blazers was startling. Jazz offense still looks like the same rudimentary garbage Quin started implementing 2 years ago; Jazz players continue to go around off-ball screens (when there are any) at half-speed. Worrisome.

I think the system is fine, but the execution is awful and has been for some time. It's not just the offense either. Our guys consistently blow defensive coverages and make boneheaded plays on both ends. Despite our size we often play soft and don't work harder than the other team. Our focus and disciple baffles me and I don't understand why it hasn't gotten better.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not knowledgeable enough about the intricacies/nuances of NBA offenses, but the difference between the sophistication and execution of off-ball action/screens between the Jazz and Blazers was startling. Jazz offense still looks like the same rudimentary garbage Quin started implementing 2 years ago; Jazz players continue to go around off-ball screens (when there are any) at half-speed. Worrisome.

I think a decent portion of that is just the quickness of the Blazers vs us.

 

[♪alt13]

McCollum would still be better.

I was kinda lazy in that post. I meant would McCollum be netter/worse/same as he is today. I wasn't asking whether he would still be better than burke.

 

[♪alt13]

Because they don't know what "exponentially" means?

Irritates the **** out of me.

To be fair your avatar makes it seem like everything irritates the **** out of you.

that's not an avatar that's an angrytar^

 

[Zapper7246]

Bolomboy looked decent. Nose for boards.

Man, he looks like a FREAK athlete. Kid looks like he could jump out of the gym. Also, worried that if he squeezes the ball too hard it'll explode!


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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Bolomboy is noticeably bouncier and quicker to the ball than other players his size. He's an interesting energy player.

 

[GVC]

To be fair your avatar makes it seem like everything irritates the **** out of you.

that's not an avatar that's an angrytar^

It's just a pic of Harping in an old-timey football helmet. Has nothing to do with me being a misanthropic *******.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Man, he looks like a FREAK athlete. Kid looks like he could jump out of the gym. Also, worried that if he squeezes the ball too hard it'll explode!


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He is athletic, but when I see him move he looks like a center. He doesnt have the fluidity of a Booker.

 

[Stifle Tower]

lol @ bringing up +/- numbers in a preseason game.

I think it's relevant in the sense that Quin has been stressing defense and Jazz apparently had a bunch of Enes Kanters on the floor.

 

[MT Steve]

I think it's relevant in the sense that Quin has been stressing defense and Jazz apparently had a bunch of Enes Kanters on the floor.

The defense wasn't amazing or anything, but Portland made a ****load of difficult contested shots.

 

[The Midnight]

The defense wasn't amazing or anything, but Portland made a ****load of difficult contested shots.

Not to mention Lillard.. I mean he burnt us everytime he had the ball in his hand.

 

[LogGrad98]

Meh. Pre-season. We'll get better. Incorporating new players isn't easy especially players that will demand minutes by their experience level alone.

 

[fgcamel]

Meh. Pre-season. We'll get better. Incorporating new players isn't easy especially players that will demand minutes by their experience level alone.

This is a good point. And to illustrate it, this image should partly explain why the blazers looked a lot more in sync than we did at times. They have the most consistent group of players from last year to this year. Of course, we are second on the list, but most of those lineups tonight were together for the first time.

 

[fishonjazz]

Life without Steve Brown has been the highlight of the season so far.

This

 

[fishonjazz]

Exum looks like he's the only Jazz that can get to the paint easily. AT LEAST Jazz do have someone that can get in the paint

Burks

 

[Revolution 9]

I enjoyed the game even though the second half was pretty meh. It was just great to see Jazz basketball back. The start of the season is here.

Positives:
-Got off to a great start with starters
-Hayward and Favors were the two best players on the court
-Bolomboy and Neto in garbage time looked good. 13-0 run.
-Lyles had some positives on offense, was aggressive.
-Exum made it through the game, and had good form on 3pt shot

Negatives:
-Defense was pretty bad most of the game. Interior and Deep.
-3 pt shooting overall wasnt there. (there were good looks though)
-Cohesion. Damn Portland plays well together, and maximizes their talent. We need to get there.
-Joe Johnson. It'll come for Joe, and the vets. It may take well into the regular season for them to find their way with us.