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White Chocolate said:
Longabardi is 5'8.
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Damn, if only there was a 5'8'' coach named Quin. The vacancy would already be filled.

OTR, got nothing against Quin Snyder, just remember him from growing up watching Big 12 basketball. Would be a major trip seeing him coach the good guyz.

I'm really indifferent to all these coaching possibilities because I know nothing of substance about any of them and assume the Lindseymeister will make the right decision.
 
LazyD said:
Damn, if only there was a 5'8'' coach named Quin. The vacancy would already be filled.

OTR, got nothing against Quin Snyder, just remember him from growing up watching Big 12 basketball. Would be a major trip seeing him coach the good guyz.

I'm really indifferent to all these coaching possibilities because I know nothing of substance about any of them and assume the Lindseymeister will make the right decision.
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This, tbh I will support anyone not named Jim Boylen.
 
id rather have Dr Quinn Medicine Woman

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I'm actually convinced it is going to be Messina. The Knicks are going to want somebody who can and will run the Triangle, primarily because Phil Jackson is an egotist. That will probably be Kerr, with an outside shot at Fisher. The only worry I have about us not getting Messina is the Lakers because he is probably the one coach worth something that would relish the idea of working with broken down Kobe. Freaking Kobe even speaks Italian and has worked with Messina before. That worries me.

Now would the Laker faithful be OK with Messina? Nobody on their boards seem to know anything about him, so for them the hire would be from left field. Normally I would assume that they would keep D'antoni around for another year to tank, but I don't think they have a draft pick available, so they need to win now and build cred for Free Agents. Does Messina's cred help them attract any free agents in 2016? If no, then I suspect they may be more in the market for a sexier domestic name, or a college rising star. If they want a college guy, Shaka Smart would look really good on their bench, and would generate a Hollywood Buzz. . .
 
framer said:
I'm actually convinced it is going to be Messina. The Knicks are going to want somebody who can and will run the Triangle, primarily because Phil Jackson is an egotist. That will probably be Kerr, with an outside shot at Fisher. The only worry I have about us not getting Messina is the Lakers because he is probably the one coach worth something that would relish the idea of working with broken down Kobe. Freaking Kobe even speaks Italian and has worked with Messina before. That worries me.

Now would the Laker faithful be OK with Messina? Nobody on their boards seem to know anything about him, so for them the hire would be from left field. Normally I would assume that they would keep D'antoni around for another year to tank, but I don't think they have a draft pick available, so they need to win now and build cred for Free Agents. Does Messina's cred help them attract any free agents in 2016? If no, then I suspect they may be more in the market for a sexier domestic name, or a college rising star. If they want a college guy, Shaka Smart would look really good on their bench, and would generate a Hollywood Buzz. . .
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There is a reason Messina hasn't been hired by an NBA team yet, and my take is because he would be too much of a "project" for most NBA teams with a decent fan base that has a "win now" strategy (Knicks, Lakers, etc), therefore Messina isn't well suited as it would likely take him 2-3 years to really hit his strides (first learning how to adapt his strategy to NBA players, then perfecting his strategy, etc).


I think the Millers family is such a unique owner that would take a punt on someone like Messina long term, provided that Messina gives the Jazz Org. a long term commitment. I think they really wanted Ty to be that guy (when Ty was hired, Gail was nearly brought to tears when she said that she really wanted Ty to carry on the tradition and be with the Org. for a long time). Unfortunately I just don't think Ty has what it takes as an NBA coach. By all accounts, Messina definitely has what it takes, it's just whether or not he can adapt what he has to the NBA style/culture.
 
Messina seems like an intriguing candidate on the surface, but he has no experience with NBA game/culture/players/systems/rules/etc... I've also heard he's a lunatic taskmaster which probably won't mesh well.

I'm all for giving a guy his first shot as a head coach in the NBA but I'd rather it be an NBA guy.
 
HighlandHomie said:
Messina seems like an intriguing candidate on the surface, but he has no experience with NBA game/culture/players/systems/rules/etc... I've also heard he's a lunatic taskmaster which probably won't mesh well.

I'm all for giving a guy his first shot as a head coach in the NBA but I'd rather it be an NBA guy.
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I think you need to do a little more research.
 
White Chocolate said:
Quin Synder lead Missouri to four straight NCAA Tournament's and made the Elite 8 as well the farthest a Missouri team has ever gone. Won Rookie Coach of the Year by Basketball Times his first year at Missouri.

Was also the head coach for the NBADL Austin Torros. With them he made the D-Leage finals once, the semi-finals twice, won Coach of the Year as well. Has the most wins for a D-League coach ever in a 3-year span.

Was an assistant for Duke, the Clippers, 76ers, Lakers, Hawks, and CSKA Moscow.

Not a bad resume.. I wouldn't mind him. Anyone out of Longabardi, Messina, and Synder I would be fine with, tbh.
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Congratulations on going over the good points of his resume.

While at Missouri, he did bring them to the Elite 8. However, after his 4th season there, they went downhill.


05-06 Missouri 12 16 0.429
04-05 Missouri 16 17 0.485
03-04 Missouri 16 14 0.533
02-03 Missouri 22 11 0.667
01-02 Missouri 24 12 0.667
00-01 Missouri 20 13 0.606
99-00 Missouri 18 13 0.581

He should be nothing more than an assistant coach.
 
framer said:
I'm actually convinced it is going to be Messina. The Knicks are going to want somebody who can and will run the Triangle, primarily because Phil Jackson is an egotist. That will probably be Kerr, with an outside shot at Fisher. The only worry I have about us not getting Messina is the Lakers because he is probably the one coach worth something that would relish the idea of working with broken down Kobe. Freaking Kobe even speaks Italian and has worked with Messina before. That worries me.

Now would the Laker faithful be OK with Messina? Nobody on their boards seem to know anything about him, so for them the hire would be from left field. Normally I would assume that they would keep D'antoni around for another year to tank, but I don't think they have a draft pick available, so they need to win now and build cred for Free Agents. Does Messina's cred help them attract any free agents in 2016? If no, then I suspect they may be more in the market for a sexier domestic name, or a college rising star. If they want a college guy, Shaka Smart would look really good on their bench, and would generate a Hollywood Buzz. . .
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Kobe in his prime perhaps but not at this stage of his career and with that contract. And Messina has stressed the importance of strong backing from management and ownership. This rules out the Knicks. I don't think he wants anything to do with the Lakers or Knicks. He has stressed the importance of coaching for a team with tradition. The Knicks and Lakers have that obviously, but so do the Jazz, and the Miller's > Jim Dolan. Utah isn't perfect for him, but Lindsey could make a strong case for it.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
There is a reason Messina hasn't been hired by an NBA team yet, and my take is because he would be too much of a "project" for most NBA teams with a decent fan base that has a "win now" strategy (Knicks, Lakers, etc), therefore Messina isn't well suited as it would likely take him 2-3 years to really hit his strides (first learning how to adapt his strategy to NBA players, then perfecting his strategy, etc).


I think the Millers family is such a unique owner that would take a punt on someone like Messina long term, provided that Messina gives the Jazz Org. a long term commitment. I think they really wanted Ty to be that guy (when Ty was hired, Gail was nearly brought to tears when she said that she really wanted Ty to carry on the tradition and be with the Org. for a long time). Unfortunately I just don't think Ty has what it takes as an NBA coach. By all accounts, Messina definitely has what it takes, it's just whether or not he can adapt what he has to the NBA style/culture.
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My take is that the situations weren't right for Messina, and not Messina wasn't right for the interested teams. CSKA seems to be a dream job for him. It would take the right opportunity for him to leave. I'm hoping Lindsey goes all in with the sell.
 
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green said:
This. Stockton is either HC or no coach.
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Stockton as the HC and Malone as the #1 assistant. Who better to teach Burke and Favors how to run the P&R? Sloan handles the rotations (JK!).
Bring Messina over and give him S&M as his assistants. Messina is old school; he loves the fundamentals. And S&M were no-nonsense guys.

Seriously, this wouldn't fly. Corbin was a teammate. I don't see John or Karl in any sort of full-time coaching role. John will likely be asked to mentor the PG's; perhaps on a part-time basis throughout the season like Hornacek did with AK. And Karl is likely to work again with DF. Favors did make some progress on his offensive game. I see Kanter as a different kind of PF; I'm not sure how much he'd really get out of Malone. He wants to shoot 3's and his inside game is modeled more along the likes of Big Al.
 
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