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OFFICIAL: Trade Deadline Thread

Hack said:
Wtf? Are you high? Why the **** would we trade Al for that? Jazz aren't just going to give Al away for garbage. They will either let him expire or take a good deal. Doing that stupid *** trade doesn't do jack **** for us. Get a clue.
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In your infinite wisdom, what does keeping Al and letting him go for nothing do?
 
gregbroncs said:
Why would they want Millsap and trash for a guy as good as Millsap and a decent player besides? Hansbrough is everything Millsap used to be. Tough and Tough minded. Plays hard all the time and just does what he can. I'd consider trading Millsap straight up for him right now.
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So bad I had to neg rep. Certifiable horse-****.

Let's just go get Rafa. Dude plays hard, and he's BIG.
 
NUMBERICA said:
In your infinite wisdom, what does keeping Al and letting him go for nothing do?
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Because if we are in it to have expiring contracts then Al is way better to have than Udrih and Dalembert because he still gives us a better chance in the playoffs for at least this year. Bringing those two in half way through the year wouldn't help. It would hinder us. It takes time just to mesh, let alone make up Al's production.

I'm all for shipping him out too, but not for basically nothing. At least send Al to the bench before you do that. He's bad, but not that bad. The Jazz just are simply not going to make a move like that unless they get a pick back.

Besides, I bet he gets better offers than that. People around are mistaken when they think he has zero value.
 
No one thinks Al has zero value.

However, there is a huge difference between value as a FA (what a team is willing to pay him) and value in a trade .. What that same team is ALSO willing to give up AND pay him, both.

I think most are saying his trade value is vastly limited, not his net value to a given team.
 
MoTown16 said:
Problem with doing that is the remaining big has all the bargaining leverage. IF the Jazz want to re-sign one of them, then they should keep both through the end of the year. Then they tell each of the agents they only have cap space to sign one, make their offers and the first one to agree to a deal will stay.
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Thank you for reminding us of this.

By trading one of them, and taking back somebody's bad contract and a proscpect the jazz are also freeing up another teams cap space thus creating another potential bidder to compete against the Jazz. Keeping both, 1st round and out, and waiting for the summer maybe the safest move, and if it is the safest move it will most certainly be the path the Jazz take.


In other rumours.......

Celtics pursuing Lowry. Twitter chatter says he is undervalued and has a good contract, but not sure if Boston has the assets that Toronto wants. However nothing is impossible with Colangelo in his final year of his contract as GM and needing to do something to keep his job.

Tom Ziller @teamziller about 2 hours ago
The mere existence of Bryan Colangelo makes it almost impossible to ascertain what the Raptors would need to give up Kyle Lowry.
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Hack said:
I'm sorry, I forgot this word isn't in your vocabulary.

→Win←
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Win what? A playoff game? Series? Championship? Other good teams will take note of what Houston did tonight, and send their point guards to double in the post, and the Jazz will be lucky to win one playoff game this year. What teams do you think are going to give anything of value for Jefferson or Millsap? If you can dump Marvin with one of them, and take back only expirings, picks and young players, you do it. Tank hard for Wiggins.
 
gvc said:
win what? A playoff game? Series? Championship? Other good teams will take note of what houston did tonight, and send their point guards to double in the post, and the jazz will be lucky to win one playoff game this year. What teams do you think are going to give anything of value for jefferson or millsap? If you can dump marvin with one of them, and take back only expirings, picks and young players, you do it. Tank hard for wiggins.
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this.
 
GVC said:
Win what? A playoff game? Series? Championship? Other good teams will take note of what Houston did tonight, and send their point guards to double in the post, and the Jazz will be lucky to win one playoff game this year. What teams do you think are going to give anything of value for Jefferson or Millsap? If you can dump Marvin with one of them, and take back only expirings, picks and young players, you do it. Tank hard for Wiggins.
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Agreed. But if we get a half decent point guard back, the team won't be capable of tanking. I don't care if our bench is littered with 7 Luke Waltons, (insert young PG here), Burks, Hayward, Favors & Kanter win 35 games (minimum) in their first full season. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they made the playoffs.
 
GVC said:
Win what? A playoff game? Series? Championship? Other good teams will take note of what Houston did tonight, and send their point guards to double in the post, and the Jazz will be lucky to win one playoff game this year. What teams do you think are going to give anything of value for Jefferson or Millsap? If you can dump Marvin with one of them, and take back only expirings, picks and young players, you do it. Tank hard for Wiggins.
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Given that the Jazz organization has demonstrated little commitment to playing high draft picks or younger players when journeymen veterans can be had for cheap instead, I don't see this happening. This problem is not new. Is there another organization on the planet that would have put up for so long of playing Milt Palacio or Chucker McLeod over the #3 pick Deron Williams? Why do the Jazz even bother with the draft? Just trade draft picks for veterans, play to reach the 8th or 7th seed each year, and give up any pretension of building a potential title contender in the future.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
Given that the Jazz organization has demonstrated little commitment to playing high draft picks or younger players when journeymen veterans can be had for cheap instead, I don't see this happening. This problem is not new. Is there another organization on the planet that would have put up for so long of playing Milt Palacio or Chucker McLeod over the #3 pick Deron Williams? Why do the Jazz even bother with the draft? Just trade draft picks for veterans, play to reach the 8th or 7th seed each year, and give up any pretension of building a potential title contender in the future.
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I think this is pretty much already the present.
 
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