Official trade Exum and/or Bradley into cap space thread

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just dont get the huge rush to axe Exum in favor of more scorers. The Jazz added two guys who averaged 20 last yeaf. They good on scoring. Exum is one of the Jazzs few defense first plus athletes left on the roster.

 

[infection]

I just dont get the huge rush to axe Exum in favor of more scorers. The Jazz added two guys who averaged 20 last yeaf. They good on scoring. Exum is one of the Jazzs few defense first plus athletes left on the roster.

Who do we play at the 4? If you're talking about defense, are you cool rolling with Ingles and Bojan at the 4? Do you not view Morris as a defender? I don't think any of us are wanting to dump Exum for a scorer. We're wanting to dump him for someone who can legitimately play the 4, start, play defense, and still have to be guarded on the perimeter. Morris checks all of those boxes.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Agree with Cy on MM. Dude would screw our offense with bad shots, pout, bitch about his role, and get into unnecessary altercations (both with other teams' players and ours) non-stop for 82 games.

If the Jazz can't get anyone legit for the 4 I think Davis starts but still only plays about 24 minutes (a la Favors). Every game will simply evolve to the Gobert/BoJiIngles front court to end the game.

 

[NAOS]

At the game yesterday they showed Niang, Donovan and Exum in the crowd and when they showed Dante some in the crowd started to boo and they quickly went to a shot of something else. Then they went back to Exum after a bit. Uncomfortable.

Yikes. That ain’t right.

 

[infection]

If the Jazz can't get anyone legit for the 4 I think Davis starts but still only plays about 24 minutes (a la Favors). Every game will simply evolve to the Gobert/BoJiIngles front court to end the game.

No way. They were moving from Favors to get Niko then Bojan for spacing. Ed Davis is a worse floor spacer than Favors as he does not take any shots outside the paint. Ed Davis is a 5. He hasn't played 24 minutes per game since his rookie season. His last three years he's averaged 18 minutes per game. Four years ago he averaged 20. He's not starting. He's also not playing the four unless it's the end of the game and we're needing rebounds from the free throw line, unless there's a rare matchup issue where he's playing 2-3 minutes at the 4.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Looking at what the Kings have done this offseason... I think Bjelica could be available. They signed two centers and two guys that play SF/PF and have Bagley and Giles who they love there. They can likely do better than Dante if they decide to move him... but tell Vivek that he reminds some people of Shaun Livingston... he will immediately pay 1.50 on the dollar.

 

[rjfan]

So it is 10 pages of discussion of a scenario that is clear the fo has no intent of going in (trade exum) ?

 

[infection]

So it is 10 pages of discussion of a scenario that is clear the fo has no intent of going in (trade exum) ?

If you go out to the main forum, you'll see we have 959 pages of thread titles that are dedicated to nothing more than scenarios that will never happen.

 

[colton]

I probably know the answer, but: any interest in Boogie Cousins for cheap? Give him a chance to re-establish himself out of the limelight. There seems to be no market for him:

Great discussion. For what it's worth I loved the earlier start time to free-agency.

 

[colton]

Agree with Cy on MM. Dude would screw our offense with bad shots, pout, bitch about his role, and get into unnecessary altercations (both with other teams' players and ours) non-stop for 82 games.

If the Jazz can't get anyone legit for the 4 I think Davis starts but still only plays about 24 minutes (a la Favors). Every game will simply evolve to the Gobert/BoJiIngles front court to end the game.

Niang can handle a few minutes as well.

That being said I would love for the Jazz to trade Exum and Bradley and pick up a legit starting 4.

 

[Jazz]

So it is 10 pages of discussion of a scenario that is clear the fo has no intent of going in (trade exum) ?

Yeah they aren't going to trade him. It's kind of funny reading some things the fans say about Dante. It just shows so many fans don't understand basketball lol. The smart people are the fo. They know what they're talking about.

 

[Jazz]

If you go out to the main forum, you'll see we have 959 pages of thread titles that are dedicated to nothing more than scenarios that will never happen.

Yeah U have no clue about basketball. Lol

 

[NAOS]

I probably know the answer, but: any interest in Boogie Cousins for cheap? Give him a chance to re-establish himself out of the limelight. There seems to be no market for him:

Lol @ Boogie

 

[Jazz]

So many people on this forum have no clue about basketball. They should go and support another sport. Lol. Especially infection he's lost the plot lol

 

[NUMBERICA]

If hes only playing 15 minutes of D against Harden its worth it.

Jazz should be worried about specific match ups than they are getting another score first forward.

lol, you didn’t address any of the context questions. Your sample size is almost non-existent.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Yikes. That ain’t right.

Agreed.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The easiest way to get Royce 30 minutes a night is to start him at 4... I think he’s perfect for that starting group. Put him on the opposing teams best wing and allow him to spot up. He’s low usage and rebounds well... a pf has to close out to either him or Bojan and I like their chances.

Ingles comes off the bench but likely closes games. IF Exum is healthy or top 8 guys are solid and Niang is a fine 9th man. Could add a buyout guy or see what happens at roster cut time.

One thing to note... we didn’t have to cut Neto to make room for Bojan. So they likely have someone else in mind for that spot. Maybe they make Bojan contract descending but the numbers worked to keep Neto... makes me think they have something in mind.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

If we are moving Exum it won't be until mid-season imo. He has to show he's healthy or no one will want him.

This is wrong. Exum's value only increases when he is NOT playing. He hid in Australia instead of coming over to play college? Draft stock increased. He missed most of two seasons of his first four? Got rewarded with a big new contract. His absence only makes the heart grow fonder! If he can manage to sit out the upcoming season, he should be setup for a massive payout soon after.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Was Royce a PF in college? I’m cool with the idea of him starting at the 4, but it’s hard for me to believe that making that his primary role is an ideal scenario, even at this stage.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Who do we play at the 4? If you're talking about defense, are you cool rolling with Ingles and Bojan at the 4? Do you not view Morris as a defender? I don't think any of us are wanting to dump Exum for a scorer. We're wanting to dump him for someone who can legitimately play the 4, start, play defense, and still have to be guarded on the perimeter. Morris checks all of those boxes.

I don’t know enough about Marcus Morris to have a strong opinion, but if your argument is that we need Exum to guard one guy even though he is terrible offensively, how on earth can you then trash Morris when one of the main points is his ability to guard who would be our biggest matchup issue right now (LeBron)? Especially since it looks like Morris has a much larger sample.