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Ya gotta feel bad for the kid. From a football standpoint, I think it puts Utah in an early bind for a passing game that needs all the help it can get. I felt like Fakailoatonga and Moeai being back at the TE spots was going to be a huge factor in taking pressure off of the WR corps. Now you're down one of those guys and you haven't even played a game yet. Hopefully the silver lining is that it happened early enough in camp that some other guys take the opportunity to step up.

It hurts, but the good news is, Utah had a lot of depth at the TE spot. Moeai and Handley are starting level PAC-12 TE's. Fakailoatonga was on par with those two. So, I don't think we take a step back but if someone else gets hurt...
 
This would scare me a whole lot more if Harrison Handley didn't come in last year, as a FRESHMAN, and absolutely tear it up with amazing play despite not having a proficient passing offense. And Moeai is doing well... Seriously, we'll be fine.
 
You're both right about Handley but I think the plan was to use him split out quite a bit in more of a hybrid role. He's not the best blocker in the world so now you move him back inside, which takes him out of the slot, and ask him to do something that he definitely needs to be better at.

I'm not doomin and gloomin, but the injury does have a trickle down effect. I'm hopeful that they actually just try and find an adequate TE to fill that inside roll and stick to the plan with Handley. Hopefully there's a "next man up" waiting in the wings.
 
You're both right about Handley but I think the plan was to use him split out quite a bit in more of a hybrid role. He's not the best blocker in the world so now you move him back inside, which takes him out of the slot, and ask him to do something that he definitely needs to be better at.

I'm not doomin and gloomin, but the injury does have a trickle down effect. I'm hopeful that they actually just try and find an adequate TE to fill that inside roll and stick to the plan with Handley. Hopefully there's a "next man up" waiting in the wings.

Hans Olsen was going on and on about how much Harry Handley has improved his blocking this past year. So, that is hopeful.

Whitt and ARod both said that there will be less read/option this fall. They have both said that all three QB's are not runners. They are passers.

I think we finally start to see some identity with this offense.

Look at what we've been through:

ARod - who actually wasn't doing that bad of a job. He ran a spread offense.
Chow - pro style offense.
BJ - Some of everything, not a lot of anything.
DC - I honestly wonder if he just ran around trying to piss people off. As Cy is to me, DC was to Whitt.
ARod/Harding - back to the spread.

We have bounced around offensively so much...we havn't had consistency. We have recruited for any one type of offense, because it kept changing. Look at our QB class one year:

Micah Thomas - a runner
Brandon Cox - can run and throw
Conner Manning - a passer

We had no idea what we wanted. Now, we do know. I think ARod will bring back a spread version of the BYU offense that Chow ran, but with a higher emphasis on running the ball.

Two TE's, TE's split wide, and a QB that can run if needed. This really opens things up. We will still be a run heavy offense, but will be able to use the TE's to take advantage of mismatches. If the defense comes out in a base 4-3 or 3-4, then we will throw to the TE's. If they come out in a dime package, then we run the ball. Then take a couple shots downfield with the WR's every game.
 
Hans Olsen was going on and on about how much Harry Handley has improved his blocking this past year. So, that is hopeful.

Whitt and ARod both said that there will be less read/option this fall. They have both said that all three QB's are not runners. They are passers.

I think we finally start to see some identity with this offense.

Look at what we've been through:

ARod - who actually wasn't doing that bad of a job. He ran a spread offense.
Chow - pro style offense.
BJ - Some of everything, not a lot of anything.
DC - I honestly wonder if he just ran around trying to piss people off. As Cy is to me, DC was to Whitt.
ARod/Harding - back to the spread.

We have bounced around offensively so much...we havn't had consistency. We have recruited for any one type of offense, because it kept changing. Look at our QB class one year:

Micah Thomas - a runner
Brandon Cox - can run and throw
Conner Manning - a passer

We had no idea what we wanted. Now, we do know. I think ARod will bring back a spread version of the BYU offense that Chow ran, but with a higher emphasis on running the ball.

Two TE's, TE's split wide, and a QB that can run if needed. This really opens things up. We will still be a run heavy offense, but will be able to use the TE's to take advantage of mismatches. If the defense comes out in a base 4-3 or 3-4, then we will throw to the TE's. If they come out in a dime package, then we run the ball. Then take a couple shots downfield with the WR's every game.

I'll believe Utah finally has an offensive identity when I actually see it happen with my own 2 eyes. Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited about what we're hearing about Troy Williams but we've been told that this offense has found itself more than a couple of times, only to be let down.

And if Hans Olsen is reporting that HH has improved his blocking, you can pretty much take it to the bank that he's forgotten how to block completely.
 
lol on the Hans comment. Great stuff. I'd say that right this moment, we do have an identity:

Run the ball.

And we need to get better at it. BUT, I think we've hit a wall on our running the ball until the pass game gets better. Not necessarily more yards, but more efficient. If we can go from 8th in the PAC-12 in pass efficiency to 4th, then while our passing yards won't necessarily go up, our rushing yards will blow through the roof.
 
The more I hear interviews from the coaching staff the more excited I get for the season. They seem really excited about their chances this year. I don't ever remember hearing Whitt this up beat about a camp.
 
The more I hear interviews from the coaching staff the more excited I get for the season. They seem really excited about their chances this year. I don't ever remember hearing Whitt this up beat about a camp.

Meh. I'd prefer the other way, the Joe Paterno way I call it, quite frankly. Downplay, criticize, keep the kids humble and hungry.
 
The more I hear interviews from the coaching staff the more excited I get for the season. They seem really excited about their chances this year. I don't ever remember hearing Whitt this up beat about a camp.

I remember when Whitt was DC at Utah. He'd go on the radio every week and pick games for the week. And he was incredible. He knew every team and he would basically tell you what would happen on Thursday:

"UNLV vs Wyoming? Well, Wyoming likes to do A, B and C but UNLV can counterattack that with D, E and F. Should be a good game, but so and so has been playing well lately and he will get 125 yards and UNLV will win 35-24."

He would do that for every MWC/WAC game. And he was spot on.

What would then happen is that Player So and So would get 123 yards and UNLV would win 34-24.

It was incredible.

My point? Whitt knows everything about everyone. He knows every stat on every team. He knows before the season starts how it will end. The best part about it? He is an open book. He tells you like it is and tells you what will happen if you listen.

If he sounds excited....

He's not lying, hiding, over-hyping. He is telling you how it is.

We are good. Really good.
 
I'm going to focus on this part of your post because I'm not the guy saying BYU almost won that game. We didn't.

I personally think that game was a perfect synopsis of Bronco's career against Utah. Bronco refused to treat Utah as a special game. That was a mistake. It showed on the field. EVERY YEAR. Utah came out with a great game plan and executed it. That led to great plays. Some were lucky (not even green could argue that). But that's what happens when you're that prepared. This was part of the reason I wanted Bronco to go away so badly.
Sitake has been around Whit and seen how he prepared for these games. Hopefully, he learned a lot from it and implements that.
Getting back to beating Utah and getting into the Big 12 are the only things on my Christmas list.

Utah doesn't beat byu because of a special game plan, they win every year because there is a massive talent gap between the two teams. There are maybe 2-3 byu guys that would start for Utah each year. The rivalry game factor makes some of the games close, but the two programs haven't been close since 2003.

byu is closer to Utah St than Utah. It's no longer a rivalry game on the field, but a rivalry through the fans and the culture in the state of Utah.
 
Utah doesn't beat byu because of a special game plan, they win every year because there is a massive talent gap between the two teams. There are maybe 2-3 byu guys that would start for Utah each year. The rivalry game factor makes some of the games close, but the two programs haven't been close since 2003.

byu is closer to Utah St than Utah. It's no longer a rivalry game on the field, but a rivalry through the fans and the culture in the state of Utah.
I know my reading and writing skills aren't on YOUR level, but I don't think I said that was the only reason.
 
I'm really interested to see how a Bronco-Free rivalry game is gonna shake out. Defensively, philosophies are going to be EXACTLY the same. I know BYU actually has some decent corners, but its gonna take those players a little while to master the man coverage, corners out on an island type of D that Sitake brings to the table.

Utah needs to step outside themselves offensively and test BYU deep in that game. Being only game 2 playing that defense, let's see if Utah's WR's can get past those corners and force their safeties to make some quick decisions. Utah could have a really big day passing.
 
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I actually think Utah goes a little different after BYU. With Patrick's size, Fulks' speed and our TE's and Sitake's aggressiveness, I think Utah goes fast, quick passes and a lot of screens and use our speed against BYU and stretch the field sideline to sideline.
 
So reading these last few pages of posts from ute fans (i know its the homer thread and green gonna green so i should take it with a grain of salt) and listening to sports talk radio it would seems that the utes would be favorites to compete for a conference championship. Best D-line and O-line ever. Offensive coordinator consistency. Whitt sounding super pleased and optimistic in every interview. Finally going to have a passing game. Etc etc.
Then on the radio yesterday i heard an interview with a national writer ranking the pac12 teams. He had it:
1.stanford
2.UCLA
3.Oregon
4.washington
5.usc
6.washington state
7.Utah

So then I googled Ranking pac12 teams for 2016 season. Most lists are very similar. One had utah ahead of washington state in 6th place. One had utes at 8 with cal ahead of them.

Seems that most every publication has the top 4 teams all being from the north. Maybe utes being in the weaker south helps their chances?

https://pac-12.com/article/2016/07/14/stanford-chosen-win-pac-12-title-preseason-media-poll
https://pac-12.com/article/2016/07/...conference-football-2016-projections-rankings
https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=Pac-12
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/early-pac-12-football-predictions-2016
https://campusinsiders.com/news/post-spring-pac-12-football-rankings-2016-05-06-2016
This link: https://collegefootballnews.com/2016/pac-12-team-schedules-predictions Has the utes finishing 5th in the south. Only ahead of colorado.
This link is kind of a general preview for the conference:https://campusinsiders.com/news/pac-12-football-preview-2016-early-conference-lookahead-05-31-2016 and it has a category of players who deserve a bigger spotlight and players who are the best pro prospects. No utah players listed.

Seems like tons of hype for the utes right now locally. Is it deserved or is it just the usual pre-season homer hype that most every team has locally?


Where do the ute fans think that the utes should be ranked in the conference right now? Where do you think they will finish?
 
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Seems that most every publication has the top 4 teams all being from the north. Maybe utes being in the weaker south helps their chances?
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Seems like tons of hype for the utes right now locally. Is it deserved or is it just the usual pre-season homer hype that most every team has locally?
Where do the ute fans think that the utes should be ranked in the conference right now? Where do you think they will finish?

I'm not sure about the South being weaker. I think it's probably going to be on par with the North this year. Colorado is improved. Our worst will still be a lot better than their worst - Oregon State. UCLA and USC will be strong, as will Utah. Arizona schools are the wildcard.

I believe the hype is deserved - if only because of the way Kyle is acting. He's NEVER acted like this. That means it's gotta be good.

As far as where they should be ranked - who cares?? I kind of like being ranked low. Just means we go in as an underdog and maybe catch our opponents not expecting us to kill them. I'd rather sneak up on teams, especially since we play USC fairly early in the season.

This season has the potential to be a very special season, more so than any other since the Sugar Bowl season, methinks.
 
Alt - you haven't even mentioned Pita T our best rusher. Crazy.

Yep yep yep!

Alt... that post got me all hot and bothered.

I'm getting so excited!!! I really wish I could go to Fanfest this Saturday. Alas, previous obligations. <sigh>
 
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