Wonder if it was the same guy who did it to Harden.
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Wonder if it was the same guy who did it to Harden.
trigg3r
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Disagree. Their defense looked absolutely gassed at the end not to mention the 2 players lost to questionable targeting calls. Sitake said in the post game Hill had a pass option. On the road against our defense, I think you try to end the football game right there. I don't want to say Hill choked it at the end, but it looked like a very poor decision on his part led to him being tackled where he was. Think of it this way, if they are successful on that two point conversion winning the game would you be calling them stupid? I doubt it. You have the advantage of hindsight.
I also disagree that they were better today. A better team takes advantage of a +3 TO advantage and wins that game. With that advantage they still had to charge down the field down by 7 to try to tie or win it with about 3 minutes left in the game. Both teams played an awful and sloppy game overall. Our defense ended up making all the difference.
trigg3r
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Every fanbase has idiots. This week brought out the worst elements of each fanbase. I would love it if this game isn't scheduled beyond 2020. Too much venom being spewed from both sides.
prodigy
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I said at halftime I'm surprised we aren't losing by 10+. felt like we should be losing.
how often can you go -3 in turnovers and still win? not often. that was ugly and was brutal to sit through.
i'm happy we won, but can we sure up ball security otherwise we are getting dominated by usc.
green
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I actually like what our offense has done. I like what Williams has done. NOW, he has a lot to learn and he needs to get a lot better, but the coaches know that we are really, really good but we need a pass game. Desperately. So, they are trying to get Williams up to speed before the regular season starts.
Look, we turned the ball over 6 times and beat BYU. We are just better. In every way. Hell, I'd rather have Troy than Taysom as our QB.
We will come out and throw it another 30+ times vs SJSU to get Troy as much experience as possible. Then, come USC, we will run Moss down their throats and back off the throw game and go back to utah football BUT with a more dynamic QB for those runs and PA throws.
All of this is just practice for PAC-12 play. No one thought Utah would lose tonight. And as poorly as Utah played, they still won. There is no excuses now, Utah is just the better team and has far surpassed BYU.
The key to Utah's season is finding an inside runner (which they did in Moss) and getting Troy Williams up to speed, which they are trying to do. It's up to Williams to not make the same mistake twice.
Look, we turned the ball over 6 times and beat BYU. We are just better. In every way. Hell, I'd rather have Troy than Taysom as our QB.
We will come out and throw it another 30+ times vs SJSU to get Troy as much experience as possible. Then, come USC, we will run Moss down their throats and back off the throw game and go back to utah football BUT with a more dynamic QB for those runs and PA throws.
All of this is just practice for PAC-12 play. No one thought Utah would lose tonight. And as poorly as Utah played, they still won. There is no excuses now, Utah is just the better team and has far surpassed BYU.
The key to Utah's season is finding an inside runner (which they did in Moss) and getting Troy Williams up to speed, which they are trying to do. It's up to Williams to not make the same mistake twice.
gregbroncs
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Holy ****. Were those the worst refs in the history of football? Also how do you lose a game when you get 6 TO's and have the refs in your back pocket. How is it roughing the passer when he is in your arms before he throws the ball? How is it not intentional grounding when you don't make it to the line of scrimmage were not out of the tackle box and there was not a receiver within 20 yards of where it bounced. How does the clock stop when a guy is tackled in bounds, with 40 seconds left, and short of the 1st down.
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Between Utah and the refs handing BYU this game on a silver platter I'm not sure how they lost. Pathetic play from Utah, the worst I may have ever seen from the Utah offense, and they somehow still win.
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As a Utah fan I don't feel good about either win this season. I've very skeptical that this team is going to win 6 games. They have looked really bad, at least they won both of them.
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Also is it any wonder that the Utes don't want to play that team anymore? Bad sports, dirty players, and no real benefit for Utah if they win.
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I hope they cancel the rest of the series, I have no interest in ever seeing the Utes play that team anymore.
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Between Utah and the refs handing BYU this game on a silver platter I'm not sure how they lost. Pathetic play from Utah, the worst I may have ever seen from the Utah offense, and they somehow still win.
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As a Utah fan I don't feel good about either win this season. I've very skeptical that this team is going to win 6 games. They have looked really bad, at least they won both of them.
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Also is it any wonder that the Utes don't want to play that team anymore? Bad sports, dirty players, and no real benefit for Utah if they win.
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I hope they cancel the rest of the series, I have no interest in ever seeing the Utes play that team anymore.
trigg3r
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Two bad interceptions by Williams. His other was just a great play and catch by the defender. The pick in the end zone was absolutely terrible. Pure greed on that throw. He needs to throw the ball away. The other was pretty terrible too. Joe Williams makes me want to pull my hair out.
gregbroncs
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In what way were they "better"? Utah tried to hand them the game. most of the TO's were not even spectacular plays by the cougars but instead dumb *** **** the Utes did to themselves. They got 6 TO's and still had less yards than Utah (at least till the final drive), less points than Utah and couldn't convert gifts into points at an even acceptable rate.
gregbroncs
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This is a question for anybody, but when the targeting was called on the BYU player the INT had not been completed, The Utah player was moving towards the play when he is taken out. So how was that INT upheld? the BYU player had not even touched the ground after touching it before the BYU defender hit the Ute in the head.
trigg3r
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I can't really comment on the timing. I was at the time shaking my head in disbelief that it ended up being caught by them and not us. It looked like a solid throw that more often than not ends up a TD.
7StraightIsGreat
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Couldn't disagree more with the BYU was better angle. Taysom is not a fit for what Detmer wants to do offensively. He did have a few really nice runs but other than that, Utah dominated them defensively. Offensively for the Utes I felt like we moved the ball just fine.
When I posted that the Utes looked underwhelming, it was because Troy Williams made awful decisions, and it seemed like we were fumbling the ball every other play. I actually came out of this game feeling better about our talent and play making ability. It's just that now I'm petrified of our decision making and our ability to hold onto the damn football.
gregbroncs
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I agree with this. If not for the 6 TO's this is a blowout in favor of the Utes. They were better, more talented and controlled BYU's offense effectively. They just kept shooting themselves in the foot.
7StraightIsGreat
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Maybe you need a refresher, but this is how a BYU fan sounds: "We can't beat Utah".
Clearly better, you are certainly living up to the homer tread. Utah won by one point missed. If you were clearly better you would have won by a larger margin. The game was sloppy and some what embarrassing to watch. Neither team deserved to win or lose. The refs kicking out two players was ridiculous especially when they completely ignored the personal foul on Utah defender who drill 87 in the back after an errant pass. The hit was in the back after the play was over.
Even though the game went down to the last play, no real football fan would call this great college football. Both teams need to improve vastly if they want to win more games. Not impressed with Ty Detmer's play calling through out the game. Williams should have been used more. I thought Utah's defense was the difference but BYU's defense played almost as well considering the bad calls they got. The TE dropping the wide open catch certainly changed the game going down the stretch. BYU lost the game when they didn't take advantage of all the turnovers. Utah defense gets the credit for keeping Utah in the game. However, to say Utah is clearly the better team is ridiculous after winning by one point on your home field.
Complaining about the refs by Utah fans, no that is a good one. Two ejections that even the announcers and head ref that should be overturned. Right after the second ejection a Utah defender cheap shotted Burgenson #87 in the back after the play was dead. Nothing was called. I agree the intention grounding should have been called. It was a bad call. The reason why Utah won is that they made one more play than BYU. Overall, both teams should be embarrassed along with the officiating crew. It was not a good representation of good college football. Utah got the victory but neither team should be rejoicing in their performance.
Going for 2 for the win, win or lose, is ****ing dumb. Glad BYU was feeling it, but think they would've lost either way.
BYU is a horrible institution, owned and run by a horrible institution. This game means nothing in the scheme of things, but yeah, I'll take it.
BYU is a horrible institution, owned and run by a horrible institution. This game means nothing in the scheme of things, but yeah, I'll take it.
RJF
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Don't forget green.
green
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Lol @ BYU fans. You were given six TO's. You injured our most productive WR (Smith) with a cheap horse collar that should have been flagged. You injured our most productive/dangerous RB (McCormick) with a cheap shot that was flagged. You injured another one of our WR's with a cheap shot to the head...yet, you still lost.
Plus, the refs gave you a cheap penalty when Taysom threw an intentional grounding right before he was hit. Oh, and the time your WR grabbed Tim Patrick's arm to stop him from scoring a TD? And the refs felt so bad for you, when Harvey Langi was absolutely DESTROYED by Bolles, I mean Bolles made Langi look like a weak 215 lb end before he pancakes him three feet into the ground, that the refs gave you a pity holding call. You're right, the refs sucked big time.
And yet, with all that, when the game was on the line, Utah lined up with their third string RB, a true freshman, and rammed the ball down your throat. When it came down to the last play, you put the ball in superman's hands, and we blew that up.
Lol @ BYU fan.
We are better. There's no debate. BYU fan would be wise to just shut up until you actually accomplish something this century.
Plus, the refs gave you a cheap penalty when Taysom threw an intentional grounding right before he was hit. Oh, and the time your WR grabbed Tim Patrick's arm to stop him from scoring a TD? And the refs felt so bad for you, when Harvey Langi was absolutely DESTROYED by Bolles, I mean Bolles made Langi look like a weak 215 lb end before he pancakes him three feet into the ground, that the refs gave you a pity holding call. You're right, the refs sucked big time.
And yet, with all that, when the game was on the line, Utah lined up with their third string RB, a true freshman, and rammed the ball down your throat. When it came down to the last play, you put the ball in superman's hands, and we blew that up.
Lol @ BYU fan.
We are better. There's no debate. BYU fan would be wise to just shut up until you actually accomplish something this century.
RJF
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You're a homer to the extreme dude. BYU gave Utah 4 TO's, Nacua was tossed on a ******** call, Williams was Hurt, Utah DB cheap shot a BYU WR in the back(no call), also the blantant missed facemask call on Williams. **** calls went both ways, pretty evenly and your team won by a point. ****ing delusional dude. It's fan like you that feed the hate for Utah.