Your on fire. Burns left and right. Ouch, guess you got me. WP.
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Your on fire. Burns left and right. Ouch, guess you got me. WP.
♪alt13
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According to this Utah is a more fertile recruiting ground than either Colorado or Oregon.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2016/6/28/12040586/rankings-state-stars-florida-texas-california
There is a lot of factors that could be debated in that but even if we stick to that being true, did the PAC-10 struggle to get Utah kids before and did Utah joining help or open up a market that wasn't being utilized already?
prodigy
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Well no ****, that's because it's Pac-10 vs Mtn West back than. Don't think that's a tough decision.
At the end of the day Utah greatly benefits for being in the Pac-12 yes, but also clearly has held it's own in the conference. I don't really see a argument on that.
green
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Lol. I grew up outside of Utah, a fan of both schools. I attended and graduated from Utah.
Dude, you are flailing wildly here. Give it up. Your zoob is running over.
Also, you call my fan hood into question...when did you graduate from Oregon or BYU?
green
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In the West, California is #1. Arizona is #2. Utah and Washington are #3. That's about it when to comes to recruiting.
I'm not flailing, I was just quoting you on your fandom. I lived on campus at Oregon while taking classes at Lane community college, I planned on transferring to Oregon but changed my mind and moved back to Utah. I got my bachelor's from UVU and my masters from SUU. I'm not sure what that has to do at all with fandom. I'm an employee at Utah but that still doesn't make me cheer for them, never has. That would have 0 influence on my fandom.
I think you get a little confused on what a fan is though. Switching between schools based on winning isn't a real fan. Which is what you said you did. Glad for your sake BYU didn't win this year, it's hard switching between teams. Some of us pick a team and stick it out, regardless.
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♪alt13
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I don't think any of Utah's top recruits went to the BIG12 last year. Pac12 schools definitely have a leg up against other P5 conferences because of their presence here.
Is Utah Texas, no, but they do add value to the PAC12. To say otherwise is nonsense. Utah has improved since joining the PAC12 but they are still pretty much who they were. Oregon would be nobody without their affiliation with the California schools. Eugene, lol.
7StraightIsGreat
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This rivalry has a weird dynamic. The trash talk is fairly mild leading up to the game. All the chippy posts seem to come after the game has been played. Either way, Utah is a very unimpressive 2-and-0 and headed for a tune up game @ SJSU.
Obviously a bad opponent, but will we still look this sloppy? Regardless of opponent, Troy Williams needs as much tuning up as he can possibly get. His decision making has got to get better and fast with USC looming. The O and D lines took a step forward in the right direction this past week. It needs to continue. I'm starting to feel better about Utah defensively. As per usual, we're sitting here hoping our offense can get better while the season progresses.
Whittingham has to be watching the BYU game film and pulling his hair out. That's the kind of game that will take years off of your life if you're the HC.
Obviously a bad opponent, but will we still look this sloppy? Regardless of opponent, Troy Williams needs as much tuning up as he can possibly get. His decision making has got to get better and fast with USC looming. The O and D lines took a step forward in the right direction this past week. It needs to continue. I'm starting to feel better about Utah defensively. As per usual, we're sitting here hoping our offense can get better while the season progresses.
Whittingham has to be watching the BYU game film and pulling his hair out. That's the kind of game that will take years off of your life if you're the HC.
Joe Bagadonuts
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You are actually an employee at the U who thinks the PAC should have picked Boise State over them? Wow. That makes no sense. Are they forcing you to clean toilets 24/7 there or something?
Nope, I like the work I do there. My work there has 0 influence over my sports fandom.
green
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So, me being a fan of Utah because I went to school there and graduated from there makes me a bandwagon fan?
Flailing bro. You're flailing. Calm down, deep breath, slow down and realize what you are typing here.
I am simply repeating what you have said in this thread.
Not sure what that question means. When did I live in the state or Oregon? I lived there in the early 90s briefly, I lived there for about 3 years around 99-02. I lived in southern Oregon as well for about a year in 2012ish. I lived on campus in Eugene in 2001 or 02 for 9 months.
I guess I still live by Oregon, since Utah is pretty close. I lived in Northern California and Hawaii for awhile does that count as close to Oregon?
Joe Bagadonuts
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What do you do at the U? Do you tell your coworkers how you feel about the athletic program there? It seems very odd to me that the people you are surrounded by and the institution you are paid by has 0 influence on what you care about.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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I really didn't want to validate any of the negative comments after the game and didn't want to take anything away from the very sloppy win by the U but yet I am about to anyway by responding.
For whoever the poster is that is complaining the U should've gotten called for a personal foul for hitting the Y receiver in the back, Barton almost intercepted it and the ball had not hit the ground yet when Williams hit the receiver in the back with his shoulder and head up. I can get being upset after those 2 targeting calls just like I was upset when Troy Williams was hit out of bounds and they picked up the flag and Taysom gets tackled "too hard" and gets the flag, so I do get the feeling is what I'm saying.
As soon as the first targeting penalty was called my first thought was oh great now all we're going to hear about is this call for the next couple weeks (it should be about the players safety and if they were okay) and while I don't agree with how the rule is written and the ejection I was okay with the penalty itself, as when teach the "heads up" tackling they tell you if you are looking at the ground (head down) you're doing wrong and could hurt yourself (neck) and the opponent (leading with your crown) but I don't think the intent was there to outright injure the Ute player (even if it did knock him out due to concussion protocol and symptoms).
I would also like to point out that the Utes on the very next play proceeded to throw an INT (which the next targeting play happened) and so it got the Y's defense off the field and had no direct impact on the game, the Utes never got points from those calls. Yes I can understand not being happy with the calls as I wouldn't like it if a U player was ejected from the game for hits like that but I wouldn't be here saying or making excuses that it cost them the game, especially not when getting 6 TO's and getting great field position and/or taking away points from the other team as a result of those 6 TO's. Now as far as the rest of the game the U only really went deep on 2 plays both on the same drive and both ended up in PI calls, one against the D and one against the O, the rest was the U pounding the ball and having success doing it and that is more a reflection of the OLine winning the match up against the DLine and LB's.
As someone finally pointed out these were the Big12 refs not the PAC12 so all those conspiracies can be put to bed, other then if you want to keep with the self persecution complex then by all means who am I to tell people how to act or what to believe. Although since joining the PAC12 I thought they had the worst refs out of all the conferences (not that I watch a ton of other teams watching for bad refs).
Refs had bad calls all around I thought the hold that Garrett Bolles got called for was a lot weaker then some of the things the Y's Oline was getting away with numerous times of taking out the U's DLine from legs from behind and/or all but tackling them, but as the saying goes (or so I'm told) you can call holding on almost every play so I always tell myself that when I start wondering if it should be called or not. You should blame the refs for not calling that PI when Tim Patrick would've had the TD but the DB was holding his arm, because if they got that it would've allowed the U's offense to have the ball more and clearly they were the best thing the Y had going for it and would've resulted in the U's offense turning it over at least 1 if not 2 more times, I mean if 6 TO's wasn't enough to win a game clearly 7 or 8 would've done it right and then you guys could clearly be the better team today. So wait I take back what I said go back to blaming the refs and not calling some of the penalties the Y's D clearly deserved or for calling some weak penalties against the U that caused them to punt, if they wouldn't have had to punt just think of all the more TO's you could've gotten.
For whoever the poster is that is complaining the U should've gotten called for a personal foul for hitting the Y receiver in the back, Barton almost intercepted it and the ball had not hit the ground yet when Williams hit the receiver in the back with his shoulder and head up. I can get being upset after those 2 targeting calls just like I was upset when Troy Williams was hit out of bounds and they picked up the flag and Taysom gets tackled "too hard" and gets the flag, so I do get the feeling is what I'm saying.
As soon as the first targeting penalty was called my first thought was oh great now all we're going to hear about is this call for the next couple weeks (it should be about the players safety and if they were okay) and while I don't agree with how the rule is written and the ejection I was okay with the penalty itself, as when teach the "heads up" tackling they tell you if you are looking at the ground (head down) you're doing wrong and could hurt yourself (neck) and the opponent (leading with your crown) but I don't think the intent was there to outright injure the Ute player (even if it did knock him out due to concussion protocol and symptoms).
I would also like to point out that the Utes on the very next play proceeded to throw an INT (which the next targeting play happened) and so it got the Y's defense off the field and had no direct impact on the game, the Utes never got points from those calls. Yes I can understand not being happy with the calls as I wouldn't like it if a U player was ejected from the game for hits like that but I wouldn't be here saying or making excuses that it cost them the game, especially not when getting 6 TO's and getting great field position and/or taking away points from the other team as a result of those 6 TO's. Now as far as the rest of the game the U only really went deep on 2 plays both on the same drive and both ended up in PI calls, one against the D and one against the O, the rest was the U pounding the ball and having success doing it and that is more a reflection of the OLine winning the match up against the DLine and LB's.
As someone finally pointed out these were the Big12 refs not the PAC12 so all those conspiracies can be put to bed, other then if you want to keep with the self persecution complex then by all means who am I to tell people how to act or what to believe. Although since joining the PAC12 I thought they had the worst refs out of all the conferences (not that I watch a ton of other teams watching for bad refs).
Refs had bad calls all around I thought the hold that Garrett Bolles got called for was a lot weaker then some of the things the Y's Oline was getting away with numerous times of taking out the U's DLine from legs from behind and/or all but tackling them, but as the saying goes (or so I'm told) you can call holding on almost every play so I always tell myself that when I start wondering if it should be called or not. You should blame the refs for not calling that PI when Tim Patrick would've had the TD but the DB was holding his arm, because if they got that it would've allowed the U's offense to have the ball more and clearly they were the best thing the Y had going for it and would've resulted in the U's offense turning it over at least 1 if not 2 more times, I mean if 6 TO's wasn't enough to win a game clearly 7 or 8 would've done it right and then you guys could clearly be the better team today. So wait I take back what I said go back to blaming the refs and not calling some of the penalties the Y's D clearly deserved or for calling some weak penalties against the U that caused them to punt, if they wouldn't have had to punt just think of all the more TO's you could've gotten.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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Oh and since this is a U homer thread I think it's been too long without something like this
