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Official We Don't Need Hayward; Trade him.

Stifle Tower said:
No, he won't necessarily. The best possible deal for him - after he opts out - is a new contract with an opt out in 3 seasons. The CBA sets the max at 30% for a 7 year player and then it jumps to 35% for a 10 yr player.

So ideally (for him) he signs a $30M/per deal in 2017 with an opt out in 2020 so he can then sign for 4 or 5 years at 35%. That's why Utah doesn't have a huge advantage. He'll want the ability to opt out of his next deal in order to sign an even bigger one. And that requires just 3 years to reach the next service level plateau.
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The problem is nobody knows what will happen in 3 years time - injuries, decline in performance, change of the market. Too much uncertainty. Again - every single player with the exception of LeBron who has more power than anybody in the league chose the long-tern sure thing deal, even when they could wait for the cap to jump. A jump from 67M to 92M or to 108M in cap limit(35-45%) has much bigger effect on salary than the 5% increase he can get when he's becomes a 10 year vet, and players still took the long-term security...
 
Let's be clear if we drop Hayward, we aren't better. We need to replace that talent.
This isn't about getting rid of Hayward to improve the team. This is big picture, and the overall direction of the team.

Is there another piece out there we can get for Hayward that would make us better? I'm doubtful. We are sort of stuck
with Hay, and hoping for development of players like Hood, Lyles, and Exum to make us elite.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Is there another piece out there we can get for Hayward that would make us better?
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If it's a point guard then yes.

Maybe we can get an all star type pg and picks for him.
Boston coach loves Hayward right? Isaiah Thomas and a pick (or two)

I think Boston has some really good picks too. (The nets first this year maybe?)


Add Thomas and get Burks back. Burks + Thomas + feature hood more (and picks) > hayward?
 
I've told you guys this before, but the Jazz are all in on Exum. If they weren't, they would have traded for Teague or Hill. They believe Exum is the future and a future star. If we trade Hayward, it won't be for a PG...at least not until Exum plays a full year.

Another thing Hayward has to worry about is his numbers. When Exum comes back, our offense will change big time. The ball will go from Hayward's hands most of the time to Exum's and Hood's. Hayward will become the 3rd/4th option.
 
green said:
I've told you guys this before, but the Jazz are all in on Exum. If they weren't, they would have traded for Teague or Hill. They believe Exum is the future and a future star. If we trade Hayward, it won't be for a PG...at least not until Exum plays a full year.

Another thing Hayward has to worry about is his numbers. When Exum comes back, our offense will change big time. The ball will go from Hayward's hands most of the time to Exum's and Hood's. Hayward will become the 3rd/4th option.
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3rd option... haha

4th option... rotflmao
 
Here's when the Jazz should trade Hayward - when DL gets an offer that's too good to pass up. Until then, nope.

In the past year we've improved our bench - Lyles, Neto and Mack are solid upgrades. As I've said before, I look forward to seeing what DL does in the future. I think Booker, Burke & Johnson are gone after this season - and we'll be obtaining three replacements - those being a new backup SG, SF & PF (I realize Burke is considered a PG but I feel the Jazz will replace him with a classic SG.
 
kabenac said:
Here's when the Jazz should trade Hayward - when DL gets an offer that's too good to pass up. Until then, nope.
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This. I know fans love trades and shaking up of rosters, but we're not the Knicks, we don't make trades just for the "action". It has to count.
 
I think this Phoenix game has really enforced the Trade Hayward campaign.
 
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