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Okay this just stupid

cooldude32

cooldude32

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So blame it on ghosts why we haven't won a championship? haha

Why haven't the Jazz won a national title in their 38 years in Utah?

According to Grimm Ghost Tour tour guide, Rachel Hunt, who goes by Abby Normal, it's the ghosts' fault.

On a recent chilly night, Hunt explained to a group of thrill-seekers that excavation of the site where the Jazz arena now stands reportedly disturbed an ancient burial ground. The human remains were buried in a small grave in the Salt Lake City Cemetery.

“So they say that is why the Jazz have never won a championship game,” Hunt said.
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690824/Is-Salt-Lake-haunted-Grimm-Ghost-Tours-says-yes.html
 
Seems made up. Looking through some records of the concepts and excavation of the Delta Center no where did they mention an unmarked gravesite was discovered.
 
Witty Username said:
Seems made up. Looking through some records of the concepts and excavation of the Delta Center no where did they mention an unmarked gravesite was discovered.
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Maybe it was a Native American burial site. Greedy real estate developers usually just bulldoze those under without saying anything. I watched a documentary called poltergeist, and apparently this sort of thing happens quite often.
 
Jack Strop said:
"Abby Normal" is from an old Mel Brooks' movie, "Young Frankenstein." Classic comedy. A must see!
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Yeah, funny flick. Mel Brooks was always a cornball. The young Frankenstein tells his assistant Igor to find him an abnormal brain and he brings back the brain belonging to someone called Abby Normal. I think that's how it played anyway...
 
I heard it was a curse on the mormons from indians killed and buried at the site so they could have their land. They put a curse on the land that no one would ever win any more victories as long as the mormons ruled this land (Utah). True story.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I heard it was a curse on the mormons from indians killed and buried at the site so they could have their land. They put a curse on the land that no one would ever win any more victories as long as the mormons ruled this land (Utah). True story.
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If you want to know more about what really happened, start here:

https://www.amazon.com/Utahs-Black-...&qid=1507913371&sr=8-4&keywords=blackhawk+war

When Brigham Young and his party first settled in SL valley it was uninhabited, but it was part of the larger hunting ground of Paiutes that resided in Utah Valley and other valleys to the south. Some Paiutes stole five head or so of cattle from the south-most camp in Salt Lake, and BY's response was to send a small militia down there to regulate. They ended up slaughtering an entire village that were living in Provo Canyon, and returning with the children. One of those kids grew up to become Black Hawk (not the same Black Hawk as the famous one from Illinois) who led the largest native war (Paiutes, Utes, others) against the Mormons in the 1860s.

After that initial slaughter, the pioneers set up a fort (Bridger?) in the north part of Utah County, from which they attempted to make peace with Paiutes, Utes, Timpanogos Utes, and Shoshones in the area. Several families that couldn't get desirable land parcels in SLC then moved down to Utah Valley, and that led to more conflict.

Ultimately, a well known and much loved elder Paiute was murdered by one of the new locals, and his body was mutilated to make it look like an animal attack. The resulting conflict led the Mormons to not only kill but also decapitate 60 warriors to "send a message" to the rest of Utah Valley's original inhabitants. So if you've ever found yourself wondering how Provo was founded, there's your answer. The book is a great read.

There is also some evidence of native burial sites in Salt Lake Valley, but I haven't heard of anything on the site of the Viv:

http://www.enjoyutah.org/2014/02/utahs-first-burial-site-ancient-native.html
 
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