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Once Traore is ready France will be a problem.
 
hgb said:
So, err, looking at the wikipedia site of the Olympics tournament... how do they score those points?
Germany and France with 2-0 and 4 points, Japan with 0-3 and 3 points?
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2 points for a win, 1 point for a loss, 0 points for a loss via forfeit.
 
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idiot said:
pretty good overview/disccussion of the boxing issue:

www.espn.com

Olympic boxers reignite debate over inclusion in women's sports

Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting were disqualified from last year's world championships after reportedly failing a gender verification test. Now they are in the quarterfinals at the Paris Olympics.
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Inclusivity of 0.0000000001% of population shouldn’t come at the expense or harm of the vast majority.

That’s my take.
 
The Midnight said:
Inclusivity of 0.0000000001% of population shouldn’t come at the expense or harm of the vast majority.

That’s my take.
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The number is quite not that small. The other question is why should possible chromosome or hormone anomalities be the only thing to start drawing lines with. What about swimmers with abnormally big feet that helps quite a lot. What about discus throwers with huge shoulders and very long arms. What about Victor Wembanyama. Unless the abnormalities gets beyond the point where any kind of training can't give a fighters chance for opponents, or unless it's dangerous to other athletes, it's kind of a weird place to start cutting off people that haven't cheated. It seems nothing like that happened with the Algerian boxer so with that case, there shouldn't be any issue at all.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
The number is quite not that small. The other question is why should possible chromosome or hormone anomalities be the only thing to start drawing lines with. What about swimmers with abnormally big feet that helps quite a lot. What about discus throwers with huge shoulders and very long arms. What about Victor Wembanyama. Unless the abnormalities gets beyond the point where any kind of training can't give a fighters chance for opponents, or unless it's dangerous to other athletes, it's kind of a weird place to start cutting off people that haven't cheated. It seems nothing like that happened with the Algerian boxer so with that case, there shouldn't be any issue at all.
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Separate from the Algerian boxer case which seems to be based on a corrupt organization disqualifying her for nebulous reasons… the wingspan/height argument isn’t it at all. We don’t have 6 foot and under leagues in basketball but we do have men’s and women’s leagues. Why? If your argument is we shouldn’t have men’s and women’s sports then fine… but comparing attributes we don’t separate based on things we do is a terrible argument. Same with the “well they aren’t dominating” argument.

Again… the boxers case seems pretty obvious that she should be allowed to participate and the IOC said it’s not a DSD issue… I’ve only been reading Twitter and not fully fact checking things so could be wrong. It’s complex obviously if there are issues it would be nice to have some transparency but our current world is not able to have nuance and understanding.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
The number is quite not that small. The other question is why should possible chromosome or hormone anomalities be the only thing to start drawing lines with. What about swimmers with abnormally big feet that helps quite a lot. What about discus throwers with huge shoulders and very long arms. What about Victor Wembanyama. Unless the abnormalities gets beyond the point where any kind of training can't give a fighters chance for opponents, or unless it's dangerous to other athletes, it's kind of a weird place to start cutting off people that haven't cheated. It seems nothing like that happened with the Algerian boxer so with that case, there shouldn't be any issue at all.
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Yeah but the abnormally high level of testosterone isn’t fair to the other ladies.
 
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