On curing breast cancer naturally

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I don't think it is. No method has a 100 percent chance, but at the same time, stories like her's allow people to realize there are other options to consider.

I agree suicide and Russian roulette are options. However, when those are the options you are offering, you should be truthful about it. Natural medicine after surgery is like playing Russian roulette, natural me3dicine with no treatment is close to suicide.

 

[PearlWatson]

She never had stage 4 cancer.

She said she was but she also said she underwent the traditional treatment first.

On August 18, 2008, I was diagnosed with stage four Burkitt's Lymphoma, a rare and extremely lethal cancer. I was given seven to ten days to live. I underwent the most aggressive treatment available with the idea to try to kill the cancer without killing me in the process. Finally, I was a candidate for a stem cell transplant. After experiencing a litany of grueling side effects, I was left with the dismal results that my cancer had returned and I was given three to six months to live.

https://www.suzannesomers.com/Blog/...Dr-Gonzaleze28099s-Patient-Carey-Reading.aspx

 

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She said she was but she also said she underwent the traditional treatment first.

Oddly enough, I find her to be a less than credible source. However, even by her own story, she underwent medical treatments first, and they extended her life, before turning to woo.

 

[PearlWatson]

Oddly enough, I find her to be a less than credible source. However, even by her own story, she underwent medical treatments first, and they extended her life, before turning to woo.

Yeah, they extended her life beyond 10 days, but she did say she was told her cancer had returned after traditional treatment and she was given 3-6 months to live.

I have a hard time finding her credible as well. She has claimed that she got pregnant without actual penetration.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

I have a hard time finding her credible as well.

Well you know..... we could always get a hold of Patrick Swayze or Ronnie James Dio as a credible source.
They both received the best usual treatments possible, so I'm sure they could both shed some light.
Anybody know how to get a hold of either of them nowdays?

 

[PearlWatson]

My bad.

I just realized that testimonial on Suzanne Somer's blog was from Carey Reading praising a Dr. Nick Gonzalez for his alternative treatment on her stage 4 cancer.

It wasn't Suzanne's own story.

 

[PearlWatson]

Suzanne's story is about stem cell breast reconstruction, not cancer treatment:

When Suzanne was diagnosed with breast cancer a decade ago, she underwent a lumpectomy to remove the tumor, but refused to have the conventional reconstruction surgery most women undergo to rebuild the breast.
The reason: She believed medical research would lead to a better way to restore her body and was willing to wait for it. Last summer, the wait ended when she became the first woman in the United States to undergo a pioneering new procedure: stem cell breast reconstruction. Today, she is spreading the word on the option so other women may be able to make a similar choice.

https://www.newsmaxhealth.com/headline_health/Somers_breast_cancer_pill/2012/02/01/431347.html

 

[TheSilencer1313]

Dr. Leonard Coldwell describes how virtually any cancer can be cured in anywhere from 2 to 16 weeks.

[video=youtube_share;DgbdNNfotwM]https://youtu.be/DgbdNNfotwM

 

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Well you know..... we could always get a hold of Patrick Swayze or Ronnie James Dio as a credible source.
They both received the best usual treatments possible, so I'm sure they could both shed some light.
Anybody know how to get a hold of either of them nowdays?

Are you really so stupid that you think the survival rates for people using woo are superior to those using medicine?

 

[TheSilencer1313]

Are you really so stupid

I always loved the intelligible word "stupid", but I never thought it would be typed on a One Brow comment.

that you think the survival rates for people using woo are superior to those using medicine?

Nope, I never said that.

The point is that the medical community completely dismiss all alternative cures/treatments, whereas the alternative community at least acknowledge the medical advancements of certain treatments.
But radiating the body would not be considered one of them.

 

[Siro]

I always loved the intelligible word "stupid", but I never thought it would be typed on a One Brow comment.



Nope, I never said that.

The point is that the medical community completely dismiss all alternative cures/treatments, whereas the alternative community at least acknowledge the medical advancements of certain treatments.
But radiating the body would not be considered one of them.

The problem with what you're saying is that you do not provide evidence. I for one would love for what you describe as alternative medicine to be effective or even helpful in some way. I am doubtful as the mechanisms provided are clearly nonsense (acid causes cancerous mutations, alkaline environments suppress them? That's just hooey). You cannot convince me that scientific understanding of chemistry and physics is at fault because I have first hand experience working in laboratories and commercial scientific enterprises that span more than a decade. I know science works, and I know that the descriptions provided by scientists are the best available models based on what we see and what we understand. Nobody told me this. I know it from my own experience.

What you need to do to get this conversation going is to provide documented evidence that can be evaluated and duplicated. People telling their stories of miracles mean nothing to those of us who really would like to know the truth of the matter. Can you provide documented evidence that can be rationally reviewed, analysed, and reproduced? It doesn't have to be from the mainstream sources you hate so much. I'll accept any source that is attempting to present data to others to evaluate.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

This will take some definite research, considering alternative methods are so demonized throughout the media and internet as well.
The internet has been taken over by google as well, so if you use there search engine (which basically everyone does nowdays), you have to do some very in depth searching.
Which I suppose I should get into doing.
I did post a video of Dr. Leonard Coldwell explaining how to rid the body of disease.
Not to mention 95 percent of mainstream doctors are affiliated with the AMA that specifically instructs it's doctors to discourage such practices.

Most that follow alternative methods to disease are avid book readers, and have tried them themselves and they pass through word of mouth and old home remedy books.

 

[green]

I really don't think you've done your research very well here my friend.
Reading Susan Summers book "Knockout", she decided to go see a naturopath doctor after a normal doctor told her she had 6 months to a year to live.
She not only beat the cancer completely by using naturopath techniques, but she decided to go back to the local cancer specialist......
The guy acknowledged that the cancer was shrinking, and eventually subsided but would not admit that the cancer could've possibly been cured by these techniques.

Cancer cells are brought back to normal by restoring normal PH levels in the body towards alkaline.
Naturopaths like Mike Adams know exactly what brings bodies from acidic to alkaline, and it has nothing to do with ignoring the disease.

The fact that you think cancer cells have ANYTHING to do with the acidity in your body shows you know nothing.

Give me a break. People, like I said earlier, if you have cancer, seek out your options. Only obtain your options from someone who has, and BARE minimum, taken a science course.

Please.

 

[green]

I always loved the intelligible word "stupid", but I never thought it would be typed on a One Brow comment.



Nope, I never said that.

The point is that the medical community completely dismiss all alternative cures/treatments, whereas the alternative community at least acknowledge the medical advancements of certain treatments.
But radiating the body would not be considered one of them.

The medical community dismisses you when you start making stupid arguments, such as acidity levels can cause cancer.

 

[Hipporippo]

I really don't think you've done your research very well here my friend.
Reading Susan Summers book "Knockout", she decided to go see a naturopath doctor after a normal doctor told her she had 6 months to a year to live.
She not only beat the cancer completely by using naturopath techniques, but she decided to go back to the local cancer specialist......
The guy acknowledged that the cancer was shrinking, and eventually subsided but would not admit that the cancer could've possibly been cured by these techniques.

Cancer cells are brought back to normal by restoring normal PH levels in the body towards alkaline.
Naturopaths like Mike Adams know exactly what brings bodies from acidic to alkaline, and it has nothing to do with ignoring the disease.

WTF?

Oh so it is just your pH? Fix that and the cancer is gone...great! Just wish I hadn't wasted the past 11 years in medical school, residency, and fellowship when it's actually so simple.

 

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The point is that the medical community completely dismiss all alternative cures/treatments, whereas the alternative community at least acknowledge the medical advancements of certain treatments.
But radiating the body would not be considered one of them.

Radiation kills cells. This is not disputed, to my knowledge. Highly targeted radiation kill cells within a narrow range. It's less presice than a scalpel, but also has fewer risks.