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Orrin Hatch destroys Dan

I am no Hatch lover, but he is actually going to be the chair on the finance committee which could be a very good thing both locally and nationally.

No offense to you personally or anything, but it drives me nuts when people who know nothing about banking and high finance think Orrin Hatch can serve us well in this position. IMO, he's nothing short of a fruit cake when it comes to everything finance committee related.


One of the most revered politician in American History and its first president made it a point that a career in politics was not the American ideal, even when given the chance to be president essentially for life, so yes, it is worse.

The founding fathers were all career politicians.
Jefferson left office in 1809.
Madison 1817.
Ben Franklin was a politician for 10 solid centuries before the Constitution.
John Adams was 66 when he left office.
Samuel Adams served Mass. from at least 1766 to 1797.
 
The founding fathers were all career politicians.
Jefferson left office in 1809.
Madison 1817.
Ben Franklin was a politician for 10 solid centuries before the Constitution.
John Adams was 66 when he left office.
Samuel Adams served Mass. from at least 1766 to 1797.

How long did they serve the United States? Were they the same roles?
 
The founding fathers were all career politicians.
Jefferson left office in 1809.
Madison 1817.
Ben Franklin was a politician for 10 solid centuries before the Constitution.
John Adams was 66 when he left office.
Samuel Adams served Mass. from at least 1766 to 1797.

I have no problem with career politicians. Just 2 terms per job like the president. Hatch can still run for President, House, Hamburgler or whatever. Just no more 30 year Senators.
 
Mr. Hatch is a hero and our state wouldn't be as Great as it is without him I got to meet him with my class in the Fall and he spoke to us a little bit. It was one of the best Honors of my life I think besides meeting some of the guys on the Jazz and Usher last summer.
 
Mr. Hatch is a hero and our state wouldn't be as Great as it is without him I got to meet him with my class in the Fall and he spoke to us a little bit. It was one of the best Honors of my life I think besides meeting some of the guys on the Jazz and Usher last summer.

You consider it an honor to meet Usher. You post such random garbage, and yet in the end, it's still all garbage.
 
How long did they serve the United States? Were they the same roles?

I have no problem with career politicians. Just 2 terms per job like the president. Hatch can still run for President, House, Hamburgler or whatever. Just no more 30 year Senators.

You both know me enough to know I don't care for Hatch or any current career politician. The point was against all the talking point ******** pushing mindless herd voting. I only said something because Dickwing Dick is above the fray.


I'm even willing to allow for 3 term senators.

I'm a huge fan of removing the 17th.

I can remove my legislator if I care/try hard enough. If she voted for Hatch then I'd be busting her ***. It's all about small government being effective according to the people.
 
Washington also wasn't a big fan of political parties, which are worse now than in Washington's time. Does that make any politician bad for being part of a political party?

What makes a politician bad is that they are a politician.
 
I don't know that they did. I didn't pay attention to the election and didn't know the name of his challenger. Basically, I'm commenting on something I know absolutely nothing about. Blowing hot air outta my rear hole. I'm making pathetic generalized assumptions about Utah politics while taking cheap shots at the LDS religion. I'm a mindless ***, thought that was obvious.

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No offense to you personally or anything, but it drives me nuts when people who know nothing about banking and high finance think Orrin Hatch can serve us well in this position. IMO, he's nothing short of a fruit cake when it comes to everything finance committee related.




The founding fathers were all career politicians.
Jefferson left office in 1809.
Madison 1817.
Ben Franklin was a politician for 10 solid centuries before the Constitution.
John Adams was 66 when he left office.
Samuel Adams served Mass. from at least 1766 to 1797.

I see what you did there.

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You don't think there are power brokers within the LDS church who influence local politics?

Exactly how naive are you?

Specifics please. How did these "power brokers" within the LDS church influence the local populace into voting for Hatch?

This is fun. I love these fairy tales you keep pulling out of your *** and then have the gall to call me naive.

If you want to attribute Hatch's winning to his spending, then fine do that. But claiming the LDS church manufactured a win for hatch against a FELLOW LDS church member (who is probably more conservative than even Hatch) requires just a tid bit of factual data. Interesting.... Of which, you have yet to provide.

Again, your argument about "age superiority" kinda crashes too when you consider the age difference of Mike Lee and Bob Bennett. Are you going to claim that the church didn't side with the elder on that one? But it did with Hatch? So what determines whether the church will side with the candidate with an older age?

Just recently in local politics, Dana Layton, a younger candidate who is FEMALE ousted the older and more experienced Repub Brad Daw (Male) for the house of reps. Mia Love, a young BLACK woman ousted an older white LDS male. Where was the LDS church there?

Typical of you. I'd expect nothing less. Embarrassing you is so easy.
 
You consider it an honor to meet Usher. You post such random garbage, and yet in the end, it's still all garbage.

it is Do you know who he iis? Hes the most famous Musician in the world probably well maybe Not because Justin Bieber is I think but who knows Usher is the Man.

No, I don't know who Usher is. I just felt like bashing you for thinking it's an honor to meet someone who I haven't heard of. Sorry for being a jerk.
 
Specifics please. How did these "power brokers" within the LDS church influence the local populace into voting for Hatch?

This is fun. I love these fairy tales you keep pulling out of your *** and then have the gall to call me naive.

If you want to attribute Hatch's winning to his spending, then fine do that. But claiming the LDS church manufactured a win for hatch against a FELLOW LDS church member (who is probably more conservative than even Hatch) requires just a tid bit of factual data. Interesting.... Of which, you have yet to provide.

Again, your argument about "age superiority" kinda crashes too when you consider the age difference of Mike Lee and Bob Bennett. Are you going to claim that the church didn't side with the elder on that one? But it did with Hatch? So what determines whether the church will side with the candidate with an older age?

Just recently in local politics, Dana Layton, a younger candidate who is FEMALE ousted the older and more experienced Repub Brad Daw (Male) for the house of reps. Mia Love, a young BLACK woman ousted an older white LDS male. Where was the LDS church there?

Typical of you. I'd expect nothing less. Embarrassing you is so easy.


I read the first sentence. I'm not interested in discussing anything with you. I reported your previous personal attack and I will report any post or rep comment you make in which you throw around childish insults at me. Have a nice life.
 
I read the first sentence. I'm not interested in discussing anything with you. I reported your previous personal attack and I will report any post or rep comment you make in which you throw around childish insults at me. Have a nice life.

Ah yes. Reporting "personal attacks" like calling you out for your slander against a religion? You complain about being attacked while at the same time attacking a person's religion? And you call me childish?

Again, I'm not surprised. It's typical of you.

I'm still waiting for one fact to support your fairy tales on how the LDS church rigged this election. Of course, you're not interested in discussing it with me. After I called you out.

Again, typical. You make cheap low attacks based on nothing and yet run away.

Have a good weekend bra.
 
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