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Owners are replaceable

What other reason do the owners have to pay them other than they are afraid they may play elsewhere?

The reason NBA players get paid what they do is precisely for this reason. The owners aren't paying the players millions out of the kindness of their hearts.

Strike? Why didn't the players start their own league last time around? And if the owners are so scared, why didn't they give in last time? Both sides need each other, and the owners are losing money while games are being missed. So if the owners are too rigid in negotiations, the players won't agree, games are missed, owners lose money.
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Nobody is saying the players don't have any leverage, but that leverage is about the owners losing money from lost games. Not playing games = owners losing money = leverage. Unfortunately for the players, the owners are capable of outlasting them when nobody is making money. Just the same, it's in the best interest of the owners to give back some money and avoid missing games, or at least minimize it to prevent pissing off the fans again.
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Strike? Why didn't the players start their own league last time around? And if the owners are so scared, why didn't they give in last time? Both sides need each other, and the owners are losing money while games are being missed. So if the owners are too rigid in negotiations, the players won't agree, games are missed, owners lose money.
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Nobody is saying the players don't have any leverage, but that leverage is about the owners losing money from lost games. Not playing games = owners losing money = leverage. Unfortunately for the players, the owners are capable of outlasting them when nobody is making money. Just the same, it's in the best interest of the owners to give back some money and avoid missing games, or at least minimize it to prevent pissing off the fans again.
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I already posted the big reason why last time around they didn't. Broadcasters

I know it's just a few years later but **** has changed
 
I already posted the big reason why last time around they didn't. Broadcasters

I know it's just a few years later but **** has changed

Not that much. And your big reason is just one of many big reasons, most of which haven't changed. I would be interested to hear any theory of how the players could implement a free market system that might somewhat resemble the current NBA. I imagine you would concede that the players would not try to clone the current model, but instead would attempt to make the changes they are complaining about. Those differences completely change everything, and the new league wouldn't bring in anywhere close to what it does now.
 
https://basketball.realgm.com/blog/235544/The-NBAs-CBA-Battle-Begins

The NBA's CBA Battle Begins

While it has been fun seeing the NBPA and NBA begin their PR campaigns on more equal footing than the last time around in the leadup to the 2011 lockout, it already feels like at least the public stances so far have lacked the nuance (which I am fully confident both sides understand) necessary to have this discussion.

New Players’ Association executive director Michele Roberts made a smart decision to redefine the baseline by trying to put elements like the age limit and maximum contracts up for debate. While guaranteed contracts are a major plus for the players, Roberts has a strong point that many of the other system issues hurt the players on an individual or group level. In fact, I would argue that there are ways to get more money to the top players that teams would support as well, including allowing teams to exempt a portion of a longtime player’s salary from the cap and individual max.

Unfortunately, Roberts went so broad outside of that core idea (“There. Would. Be. No. Money.” for example) that it takes the focus away from the NBPA’s moral high ground on certain issues.

Commissioner Adam Silver’s response had to toe a difficult line because while unions are a part of many work environments, wage caps for individuals and segments of a company are not, especially with a goal of competition and skill at the highest level. While he made the fair point about unions in the American workforce, failing to acknowledge the major differences between professional sports leagues and the rest of the working world fails to elevate the discussion.

One of the biggest misconceptions that I see far too frequently is that higher player salaries lead to more expensive tickets for fans. If a team does their job properly, they will price tickets at the maximum amount that buyers are willing to pay. That is basic economics. While having a more expensive team may lead to better results and thus a fan base more accepting of paying those high prices, maximizing revenue must be a separate calculus.

Of course, the more significant problem here stems from the fact that the moral high ground does not matter. No one beyond the players and owners gets a vote on the next Collective Bargaining Agreement, including fans of a particular team, people who like the sport more broadly or the American public at large. The NBPA should learn a lesson from the NFL’s current situation since a public relations nightmare based on various legitimate issues has not made much of a dent on the viewership or profit of America’s biggest league. Sports fans are a tough audience for player leverage because they keep coming back as long as the quality and price are right.

In addition, the format of the season works against players. As I understand it, the playoffs are by far the most profitable time for teams because they actually pay the players less (and it gets tied to how far they go) and can charge more for tickets for a presumably more full house. That means shifting the balance from what the league has presently to what they had in the lockout year actually helps owners in most circumstances.

At the same time, the hope now has to be that the pie can become big enough that even a split that players are unhappy with can yield an agreement. It certainly appears to be a legitimate possibility with the massive new national TV deal and hopefully some successful local television contracts in the future.

I don't know if the part in red is true, but if it is, the owners have no reason not to play hardball, at least for a while, other than pissing off fans.
 
What other reason do the owners have to pay them other than they are afraid they may play elsewhere?

The reason NBA players get paid what they do is precisely for this reason. The owners aren't paying the players millions out of the kindness of their hearts.

Well, there are also the collective bargaining rules, due to the NBA being an effective monopoly.
 
You root for the Utah Jazz The sonics became the OKC Thunder Vancouver moved to memphis. New Orleans dropped the Hornets and became the Pellies. Charlotte dropped the Bobcats and went back to the Hornets. The Nets moved to Brooklyn. **** loads of teams have redesigned their gear including the Jazz. Did you drop the team when they dropped the Note?

Fans seem to be pretty flexible





Look it's not going to happen because like I said the owners are not that stupid but I'm sure both of you would be stoked to have a pro team in your town.

No...I want an NBA team, not some greedy player league. NBA product is the best in the world. not even close.
 
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/235541/Roberts-NBA-Owners-Are-Replaceable


3 years away, and they are gearing up for battle already. Don't know much about Roberts, but she sounds kind of like an idiot. She appears to be talking about the CBA as if it was forced upon the players, which seems odd since agreement is in the title.
Also, whenever I hear someone talk about a free market system, I wonder how they think that could happen without destroying the league.
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Also, as much as I believe the players deserve more money, I'm sick of hearing about how the players are gonna make their own league, or in this case, how the owners are replaceable. It makes them sound ****ing retarded.

Read up on her because she is definitely not an idiot. She is very smart and has as good of a resume as you could look for. She knows whats shes doing thats for sure. And being on the players side, there is no doubt they will reap the benefits over the next CBA discussion.
 
Read up on her because she is definitely not an idiot. She is very smart and has as good of a resume as you could look for. She knows whats shes doing thats for sure. And being on the players side, there is no doubt they will reap the benefits over the next CBA discussion.

Nope
 
The NBA rakes in a lot more money from TNT than it does from League Pass, as I understand it.

....anybody that subscribes to "League Pass" has got to have holes in their head! The product stopped being watchable when Stockton and Malone split up! One retired and the other went to the Lakers.
 
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