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Players I don't want on this team next season

It is crazy not to want Hood. He always had streaky games. What did you say after Clippers game 4, Hood for the allstar? He is the only one who can be better than a decent start in near future except Hayward and Gobert in this team. He just need hardwork in summer for his shooting and penetration.

Mack - he is an ok backup pg which we dont need anymore

Ingles - As much as i like him i dont think we should keep him for more than 5m a year. Better to get a guy like Korver off the bench. Will help us more.

Burks - not fit to our system, not a good player, overpaid

Withey - he is just not good and will not be any good any time soon. Better find a good backup for Gobert. Doesnt matter young or old. Just not overpaid.

Hill - he had a good season apart from his injuries and showed he is a decent starter in this league. But he isnt worth 15-20 m p/year and we need actually a really good player for that position next year.
 
sepanol said:
It is crazy not to want Hood. He always had streaky games. What did you say after Clippers game 4, Hood for the allstar? He is the only one who can be better than a decent start in near future except Hayward and Gobert in this team. He just need hardwork in summer for his shooting and penetration.

Mack - he is an ok backup pg which we dont need anymore

Ingles - As much as i like him i dont think we should keep him for more than 5m a year. Better to get a guy like Korver off the bench. Will help us more.

Burks - not fit to our system, not a good player, overpaid

Withey - he is just not good and will not be any good any time soon. Better find a good backup for Gobert. Doesnt matter young or old. Just not overpaid.

Hill - he had a good season apart from his injuries and showed he is a decent starter in this league. But he isnt worth 15-20 m p/year and we need actually a really good player for that position next year.
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Septic .. Hood has shown in 3 years that he can't penetrate and get to the free throw line. Everything points to him being a pretty average NBA shooting guard who has a few hot streaks every now and then. I don't think it'd be too hard to find a 2 guard who can shoot 37 % from 3 but who is faster and can penetrate and get to the line. And George Hill IS a really good player at that PG position.
 
Avery said:
Favors, Hill and Hood need four months off. All have talent, but ran on fumes this season.
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Maybe they are just out of gas and won't be the players they use to be. I want to keep Hood unless I can package him for a better more consistent player. I have strong doubts that Favors or Hill can remain healthy. Favors is the bigger concern. Is his issue going to resolved with rest? He missed a lot of games and when he came back he had little in the tank. I hope rest will help but I have doubts he is the same player he was.
 
Guys: who I am fine not having on the roster: Neto, Whitey, Burks, Lyles,Diaw and Mack.
Guys: who I would now trade: Hood, Exum, Favors, and Ingles.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
What cap flexibility? Exum, Hood, Favors all up for new deals after next year. Gobert and Hayward will take up half the cap between those 2 players alone. Utah could make a run at a good FA next year, but after that there isn't going to be any significant cap room.

Hill is a really good 2-way PG. Those guys don't grow on trees. Fans can dream of signing CP3 all they want, but when you start passing up really good players because you think you can go after great ones, it seldom works out.

Utah had by far the best offseason last year after GS, and the players we scored on were Hill, Johnson and to a lesser degree, Diaw. So now Hill isn't good enough for us because we want to count on successful FA acquisitions from now on?

Some of you guys need a reality check.
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It isn't that Hill isn't good enough. It is his toe that is the problem. Plus add in he wants a big contract. If the the Jazz were able to get rid of Diaw, Favors, and Burks contracts they would have money to sign an all-star caliber player.
 
Don't want :

Snyder....I thought he was some PNR guru who knew offense,his offense sucks and he has the wrong style going for the Jazz .Jazz play in high altitude and have athletic players IF THEY PLAYED THEM.
Jazz need to pick up the tempo and pace.Gobert is a defensive stud,who is athletic .Jazz don't have to slow down for him.The offense sucks because you have to slow down for JJ,Ingles,Diaw,sore toed Hill,brokedown Favors,and mediocre Mack.
These guys would benefit from a faster pace,Hood,Burks,Hayward and the ones on the bench and Snyders doghouse ....Exum ,Lyles.
This team WILL NOT win going slow.The scores will be in the 100's against Golden State ,San Antonio,Houston and Cleveland.

Mack,Diaw,JJ,Withey can be replaced.
 
stitches said:
Why don't you want Rodney? His season got derailed by his injury in a similar way Rudy's season last year got derailed? Are we really going to give up on him after one setback and an unhealthy season? Fans are so fickle... more fickle than Rodney's jumpshot one might say.
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Because Q turns him into a chucker.

The guy has skills and can't use them on this team.
 
Utesnjazz said:
It depends on what happens with Hayward. If he leaves then basiclly we are going to reboot around Rudy. We will probably trade favors and start Exum lyles and Burks. If we can resign Hayward, I bet we put all our chips in for a third star, like Butler or someone. I think Hood will for sure be in a package to make that happen.
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Then I hope Hayward leaves.

But I don't really.
 
cowhide said:
Guys: who I am fine not having on the roster: Neto, Whitey, Burks, Lyles,Diaw and Mack.
Guys: who I would now trade: Hood, Exum, Favors, and Ingles.
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Waittt.

If you are happy to trade Hood, X. Favs and Jingles - you're fine not having them on the roster(?)
 
Tom349 said:
More like Klay would have gone for 40 and we would have stood no chance. Booker like all inefficient offensive players and horrible defensive players would not get many minutes on a play off team.
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It's very hard to predict how a high volume shooting inefficient scorer like Booker would fit in on a team where he has to defer to other players, plays a role, and can't jack up 20-30 shots a game. He might be great, but also, his inefficient scoring might also prove to hurt the team.
 
DownUnder said:
Septic .. Hood has shown in 3 years that he can't penetrate and get to the free throw line. Everything points to him being a pretty average NBA shooting guard who has a few hot streaks every now and then. I don't think it'd be too hard to find a 2 guard who can shoot 37 % from 3 but who is faster and can penetrate and get to the line. And George Hill IS a really good player at that PG position.
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Hood has a game every now and then that makes you go "Wow, this guy is or could be great," which makes you very reluctant to give upon him, but unfortunately he follows those up with 3-4 games where he can't hit the ocean from the pier. He's on a rookie contract one more year. I say we hang on and hope that he develops consistency next year, but if not, the league is full of players who can get hot occassionally, but who also don't hurt the team as much, or more, than they help it. And in saying this, I'm a Hood fan, but his inconsistency is really beginning to annoy me.
 
cowhide said:
It isn't that Hill isn't good enough. It is his toe that is the problem. Plus add in he wants a big contract. If the the Jazz were able to get rid of Diaw, Favors, and Burks contracts they would have money to sign an all-star caliber player.
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Even with Favors' injury concerns, Utah doesn't win that first round series without him. Dude came up big in the playoffs even without being 100%.

But sure, if Utah can find an all-star FA that wants to join Hayward and Gobert, Utah could theoretically find a way to clear cap room. My problem with that, is that Utah already has a potential 60 win team that could be even better next simply with better health and some internal growth. Losing depth in guys like Favors and Ingles could end up hurting more than it helps.

Last time Utah made this kind of move was letting Boozer go and trading for Al Jefferson. Didn't really work out like we hoped.

Anyway, I'm not sure it's realistic to think we can catch up to the Warriors by moving players around. Unless we can get one of our stars at half price, then we just can't stack the deck like they have. Might be better to stay the course and wait for their salary issues to catch up to them, which they will.
 
Locke: Rodney Hood has 17 uncontested shots (made 5) in upcoming series GSW might not be so fortunate.

This has been the story of the series for me. It's not that we could beat GS but this is why we haven't been competitive, why we lost last night. It's not that I don't want to see Hood next year and it's not that it's all on him but this is what's holding this team back right now. Can't have our shooter make only 5 of 17 uncontested shots. And in Hoods case, he's a liability if he's not hitting. He really never is, at least not in playoff games. Those are the shots someone has to make when you are playing a defense like golden state. Last night really should have been a jazz win. We played the right way... got our way. But we don't have the right role players yet. We had them where we wanted them but didn't have the tools to finish it. People have always been overly concerned with getting a superstar but I want to see this team with Gobert, Hayward, and stronger players around them. That's an achievable goal. We have to retain Hayward. And to do that I think Lindsey needs to have a big off season and acquire some more tools.

I think Hayward will come back, but if I were him I'd be looking at the Jazz to give me some more tools. It'd be a fair expectation from him.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Even with Favors' injury concerns, Utah doesn't win that first round series without him. Dude came up big in the playoffs even without being 100%.

But sure, if Utah can find an all-star FA that wants to join Hayward and Gobert, Utah could theoretically find a way to clear cap room. My problem with that, is that Utah already has a potential 60 win team that could be even better next simply with better health and some internal growth. Losing depth in guys like Favors and Ingles could end up hurting more than it helps.

Last time Utah made this kind of move was letting Boozer go and trading for Al Jefferson. Didn't really work out like we hoped.

Anyway, I'm not sure it's realistic to think we can catch up to the Warriors by moving players around. Unless we can get one of our stars at half price, then we just can't stack the deck like they have. Might be better to stay the course and wait for their salary issues to catch up to them, which they will.
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The problem with keeping all our guys is that we can't afford to do so. Tough decisions are coming so why not use some of our assets to acquire more talented plays. Quality over quantity. I like a healthy Favors but his health is a major concern. People are simply saying if he gets healthy. That is a big IF. Now I am not a doctor nor do I know his condition but even with all the rest during the season he still wasn't healthy.
 
The Thriller said:
Hood isn't injured.

He's a steak shooter who doesn't have the aggressiveness or ballhandling to consistently get to the rim. He's basically a left handed JR smith. Or CJ Miles. He's always been this way. I don't know why people keep talking about his injury.
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Probably because both he and Quinn have talked about how he is playing in pain every time he gets on the floor and that the only solution is rest once the season is over. Not sure if that is the cause for the inconsistency but that is the key question.
 
Tom349 said:
Booker like all inefficient offensive players and horrible defensive players would not get many minutes on a play off team.
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Disagree...I present to you Exhibit A:

Rodney Hood 2017 Playoffs:
26.2 minutes per game
36% FG
27% 3PT
87 Offensive Rating
113 Defensive Rating
5.9 PER
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Even with Favors' injury concerns, Utah doesn't win that first round series without him. Dude came up big in the playoffs even without being 100%.

But sure, if Utah can find an all-star FA that wants to join Hayward and Gobert, Utah could theoretically find a way to clear cap room. My problem with that, is that Utah already has a potential 60 win team that could be even better next simply with better health and some internal growth. Losing depth in guys like Favors and Ingles could end up hurting more than it helps.

Last time Utah made this kind of move was letting Boozer go and trading for Al Jefferson. Didn't really work out like we hoped.

Anyway, I'm not sure it's realistic to think we can catch up to the Warriors by moving players around. Unless we can get one of our stars at half price, then we just can't stack the deck like they have. Might be better to stay the course and wait for their salary issues to catch up to them, which they will.
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Boozer was one of the worst defenders ever. He didnt deserve that contract on Chicago and he sucked most of his time.
 
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