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Please, Hayward-Don't Just Stay But Sacrifice a Little for the Team

Miggs

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5/177.5M is the max he can get I believe. I have this dream that he could take 5/150M and sacrifice, so that we have more money to retain our own guys, yet have him and his family still be very happy and secure beyond belief. This 150M plus his 56.785M to this point, plus his last contract will give him gross NBA earnings of 250-300M. Add in any additional income from commercials and such, and the kid would probably exceed 300M.

That's nuts. Listen, I know it's not my money. But it would just be so refreshing to see him do this and quite frankly, phenomenal for the team, as I think it's something Lindsey's talked about over the years. The idea of financially sacrificing in order to keep guys together and build a team. People can laugh but Spurs players have done this for over a decade. Why can't we? Hell, why shouldn't we?
 
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Stoked said:
All the mocking and joking aside Wes has a point.
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Nope. In this situation, the Jazz can legitimately lose him. Low balling him off of his rookie contract is going to cost the Jazz $13 million for the next two years. Just pay the man his max contract and be happy he's still ours.
 
Ellis269 said:
Nope. In this situation, the Jazz can legitimately lose him. Low balling him off of his rookie contract is going to cost the Jazz $13 million for the next two years. Just pay the man his max contract and be happy he's still ours.
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I don't think this is what Wes is saying. I think he wants Hayward to say "look, thanks for the max contract offer. Nice to know I am valued. But I am signing with the Jazz so let's take a small bit of that and use it to increase the talent around me."

I do not think Wes was arguing for the Jazz going in low.

For the record I do not expect it to happen and will not be upset when it doesn't. But if it did that could be huge for the jazz going forward.
 
Stoked said:
I don't think this is what Wes is saying. I think he wants Hayward to say "look, thanks for the max contract offer. Nice to know I am valued. But I am signing with the Jazz so let's take a small bit of that and use it to increase the talent around me."

I do not think Wes was arguing for the Jazz going in low.

For the record I do not expect it to happen and will not be upset when it doesn't. But if it did that could be huge for the jazz going forward.
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That's different. If you offer the 5 year max and Hayward comes back willing to take less for the team. . . then that's great. You simply don't see that very often, and you don't risk him walking by offering anything less than that 5 year max contract.
 
Ellis269 said:
That's different. If you offer the 5 year max and Hayward comes back willing to take less for the team. . . then that's great. You simply don't see that very often, and you don't risk him walking by offering anything less than that 5 year max contract.
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Oh, I fully agree. If the Jazz go in with anything less than "Max contract for any amount of years you want." they are stupid and will lose him.

I also don't expect it to happen but if you really want to win you need to beat the Warriors. Having an extra couple million could do wonders for improving a position.
 
Rudy and Ingles both signed without testing the markets - both probably would have gotten more money if they did. So I see the point. And Favors too going back a few years.

But I say NFW - you only go around once. The Jazz franchise will be viable and making $ long after the NBA is done with Gordon Hayward.

Maybe The Jazz franchise should sacrifice a little bit too and pay into the LT.
 
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Hayward is going to want a 3+1 contract. So that 5th year doesn't mean anything. This is what scares me the most. It limits the Jazz advantage.

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Shaggy said:
Hayward is going to want a 3+1 contract. So that 5th year doesn't mean anything. This is what scares me the most. It limits the Jazz advantage.

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I think this is what he signs as well. And that time if the Jazz are not already a legit contender, not 2nd round fodder, than he is gone. Like won't even hear a Jazz pitch gone.
 
Stoked said:
I think this is what he signs as well. And that time if the Jazz are not already a legit contender, not 2nd round fodder, than he is gone. Like won't even hear a Jazz pitch gone.
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If he wants to win and make the most money Boston is probably the best options. Unfortunately. If he goes East he will be an All-star for sure and he will get the votes for first team awards. Which will make him eligible for a super max contract in 3 years.

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Shaggy said:
If he wants to win and make the most money Boston is probably the best options. Unfortunately. If he goes East he will be an All-star for sure and he will get the votes for first team awards. Which will make him eligible for a super max contract in 3 years.

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He has to stay with his original team or be traded within his first 4 years to qualify for the supermax. It's a mechanism to encourage players to stay with their franchises - even if they have an opportunity to leave. Can't qualify for the supermax once you go elsewhere. That's why Steph Curry could qualify, but CP3, Paul George, Jimmy Butler and Kevin Durant won't anymore because they've changed teams outside the 4 year window.
 
Ellis269 said:
He has to stay with his original team or be traded within his first 4 years to qualify for the supermax. It's a mechanism to encourage players to stay with their franchises - even if they have an opportunity to leave. Can't qualify for the supermax once you go elsewhere. That's why Steph Curry could qualify, but CP3, Paul George, Jimmy Butler and Kevin Durant won't anymore because they've changed teams outside the 4 year window.
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Sweet. I didn't know that.

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Stoked said:
I think this is what he signs as well. And that time if the Jazz are not already a legit contender, not 2nd round fodder, than he is gone. Like won't even hear a Jazz pitch gone.
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this. I think the same way. He will stick around for 3-4 years, and if we are not contenter.... you know what will happen.

Don't worry. We will be a legit contender!
 
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