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Ellis269 said:
Would still rather have Tomic, but if that's not an option, then Pleiss it is. As long as the team has one true backup 5 to give Rudy a break without forcing Favors to always cover at center.
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Agreed, and Cooley ain't it. Saw no discernible talent in Cooley other than a large body.
 
dalamon said:
You seem to fundamentally ignore the point that not playing any PGs as backups to Exum means Burks having to play a majority of his minutes there. Is playing 70% of Burks' minutes at the 1 offensively (and defensively) better than having him play mostly at the 2? Is playing Hood less minutes better for our offense than playing Carroll?

This is more about signing Carroll and its negative ramifications on the roles of two of the most promising young wings in the NBA this coming season-- as opposed to robbing the playing time of Burke and Ingles. Both players are competent back-ups, and both can have their contributions easily overtaken by other promising players on the roster later in the season if they blow it. NBA teams don't roll 12 deep.



See above. Our offense has much more potential by giving lots of playing time to multiple playmakers with versatile scoring repertoires than giving it to a true SF when we already have a damn good one to begin with.



Or because of the fact that playing 70% of Alec's minutes at the 1 would be stupid, and it would neuter the huge contributions he could have with the team next season.
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You are thinking very rigidly about this. The questions that would need to be answered in getting rid of a traditional backup PG are already on the roster. Are you worried about what the team loses defensively by not playing Burke? And against backup PGs? If you're worried that we won't have an answer for Ramon Sessions on D or that we're somehow better offensively with a fringe NBA player hoisting 15 shots per game then I'm not sure there's any way to convince you.

You also didn't address that Carroll (or Green) is an immensely better offensive player than Burke and Ingles and that his ability to score off the ball actually should help others develop around him.
 
Ellis269 said:
Cooley is an undersized bruiser. Nice guy to root for, but you don't want him playing meaningful minutes for your team.
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Cooley is an extra contract to balance salaries for a trade if need be. That's really the only reason to keep him or a similar dude.
 
♪alt13 said:
The statement preceding bold makes it moot. If Alec plays 20 min at the 1 then there would still be 28-30 min for Hood at the 2/3. You should just argue what you really want to. That Trey is Black Jesus.
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Not what I'm arguing-- I'm quite high on what Burks could bring to the table next season, and there is essentially zero evidence that he can ever do it while playing the 1-- let alone playing the strong majority of his minutes at the one. A waste of his talent, and Miller money.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You are thinking very rigidly about this. The questions that would need to be answered in getting rid of a traditional backup PG are already on the roster. Are you worried about what the team loses defensively by not playing Burke? And against backup PGs? If you're worried that we won't have an answer for Ramon Sessions on D or that we're somehow better offensively with a fringe NBA player hoisting 15 shots per game then I'm not sure there's any way to convince you.
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For the 50th time-- I am more worried about the offense of this team than the defense. Making Burks work 2x harder on defense chasing around players he's not built to guard, plus putting him in a more foreign role on offense pretty much wastes the huge investment we have in him. He has some of the most potential on offense of any player for the coming season-- and playing most of his minutes at PG would hinder him meeting that potential. To me, that's more important than any contributions that Carroll brings.

You also didn't address that Carroll (or Green) is an immensely better offensive player than Burke and Ingles and that his ability to score off the ball actually should help others develop around him.
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Yes I have.
 
Surprised no one mentioned this yet. Per Locke, Pleiss is measuring in at Gobert size.

Barefoot height: 7'2"
Wingspan: 7'6"
Standing Reach: 9'7.5"

Get him to P3 to improve his athleticism. and sign him to a 4 year deal.
 
Pleiss is 2 years and 9 months younger than Tomic -- Tomic wasn't that good three years ago, so maybe Pleiss will develop into the player that Tomic is (as of now, the reports says he is a better defender and rebounder). Tomic's edge is as an offensive player.
 
Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody

German center Tibor Pleiss is working out at the Jazz practice facility. He's not signed but things are progressing.
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Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody

Tibor Pleiss has a NICE shot.
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Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody

Tibor Pleiss just made 10 straight Tim Duncan-like mid-range shots off the glass.
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Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody

Reports have been off a bit. Tibor Pleiss is 7-foot-3 in shoes.
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Oh man, Pleiss bring him over.
 
Could Pleiss be another example of the Thunder's ability to draft well only to screw it up with a trade?
 
Carbon13 said:
Could Pleiss be another example of the Thunder's ability to draft well only to screw it up with a trade?
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People ripped DL when he said he wanted a young player + picks for Kanter and then completed a trade with OKC.

He got:

Tibor Pleiss - 25 years old
First round pick
Second round pick

Damn, 7'1 Rudy and 7'3 Pleiss.
 
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