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Police Power and Racial Tensions in Ferguson, Missouri

Stoked said:
Kind of what I was thinking. Some of the information being released would fit either scenario. Such as the bullet wounds being from the front. They match the stories of Brown charging and Brown just turning around and getting shot.

However I think that overall this info on the cop being wounded plays to his favor in court.

From another news article:

"Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun..."
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Trigger happy cops can't take a little beating. What is this world coming to.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
If you are referring to me, I never said that. Nope. Please quote me if I did.

Edit: just read your other comment. I did not say you should not voice your opinion. I voiced frustration with those opinions and claimed they lacked context.

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Ok fair enough. As I said earlier I would take your word on if I was wrong as you were the one who spoke up. My apologies on misinterpreting you.
 
carolinajazz said:
What about this take:
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...not my viewpoint, but thought it was interesting.
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What was interesting about it?

EDIT: Good call deleting that post. For anyone confused, CJ posted a quote that even for him was beyond the pale
 
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Stoked said:
Kind of what I was thinking. Some of the information being released would fit either scenario. Such as the bullet wounds being from the front. They match the stories of Brown charging and Brown just turning around and getting shot.

However I think that overall this info on the cop being wounded plays to his favor in court.

From another news article:

"Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun..."
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I've barely skimmed this thread if I'm being honest and I tend to side with cops much more often than not despite knowing that there are many who are complete scumbags out there. Having said that, even though I doubt this is the case, it wouldn't shock me if Wilson agreed to let fellow cops punched him a bunch of times hours after the shooting to plant said "orbital fracture" and other injuries, just so he/they'd be able to say he was attacked and simply went the self-defense route. I hope that's not the case and I doubt it but nothing really shocks me anymore.
 
Gameface said:
What was interesting about it?

EDIT: Good call deleting that post. For anyone confused, CJ posted a quote that even for him was beyond the pale
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...well, at least I didn't get dinged for it! By the way, is it really true that this kid was involved in an armed robbery the day he was shot???
 
I think the cop could have stop shooting after he went down. Then they cuff him when he is dead. Wow!

I'm gonna say that looks excessive.
 
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only thing to be investigated is if the dead guy, was a criminal or not.

if he was a criminal end of story.
if h was not a criminal, investigate the shooter/cop, to see if it was justified or not.


every shooting of a 300 lb 6foot4 criminal by an avg cop is justified imho.
 
Hack said:
I think the cop could have stop shooting after he went down. Then cuff him when he is dead.

I'm gonna say that looks excessive.
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I am on my phone in bed so I don't have the best view so I'll watch it again tomorrow but to me, the operative word in your statements was "looks." It looks excessive. But all of this happened so damn quickly. And what I saw leading up to that moment was a man saying kill me/shoot me. He was moving sort of frantically about, like a caged lion, and then I heard one cop say Drop the knife and the man briskly approach the one cop, still carrying his knife I presume. Not bright.

I presume the cops were called to the scene for a certain reason in the first place. Even if they weren't called for anything serious though, when they arrived, they give the armed man with a death wish directives that were not only not followed but swiftly followed up by what could be considered an imminent threat. At that exact moment, the cops, rightfully so imo, shot the man. Did it seem like one or two less shots may have been fine? Yes. But all of those shots were fired so quickly, determining if those extra shots were needed is playing ridiculous armchair cop imo. What was their option? To see, as he began to fall, if he had anything left in him, risking the closer cop getting shanked? No.

Cops are trained to shoot to kill.

Trout pretty much said this before and maybe he'd disagree with me here because each case is different, but this seems pretty simple. Armed man doesn't follow directives, approaches cops while toting weapon and gets shot and killed. Maybe don't go at cops with a weapon if you don't want to be shot and killed.

And Hack, this wasn't a verbal attack on you at all. I just responded to your post at first and then continued my thoughts.
 
I can't see how anyone can argue that was necessary.

This is crazy.

Has the world not seen much of this video yet?


That video certainly does not do this situation anygood.

A video on YouTube shows the crowd at the ST Louis shooting shouting "Shoot Back" over and over.
 
I shouldn't have watched it. I don't have any words to describe it.
 
According to the article the man had a knife and approached the cops in a threatening manner. Likely the shooting will be deemed justified.
 
LogGrad98 said:
According to the article the man had a knife and approached the cops in a threatening manner. Likely the shooting will be deemed justified.
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Maybe so.

But doesn't it seem like they added a few extra that might not have been necessary?

Maybe they kept missing and that's why they kept shooting. But there is a definite moment there where the cops put 3 more in him that were clearly after he was on the ground.
 
Watched it at slow speed. Cops start to shoot when the guy is 10 feet away, after the first shot and right before the second shot, the guy had already started to fall. Yet the cops did shoot him at least 9 ****ing times.


It's a bloody murder.
 
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