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I should be further down because asking me if I think something is immoral is not the same as asking me if I think the government should do something about it. But whatever.

Looks like I'm aligned with Marty Friedman, former lead guitarist of Megadeth:

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I should be further down because asking me if I think something is immoral is not the same as asking me if I think the government should do something about it. But whatever.

Looks like I'm aligned with Marty Friedman, former lead guitarist of Megadeth:

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I am very close to the Ghandi/Hitler intersection.
 
I just figured Utah would be more conservative.



/Conservatives are too busy actually making money to post on message boards?
//Now we're gonna get somewhere

Chalk it up to the devolution of Mormon badassery. Just look at the Bundy topic. Mormons went from bad *** explorers that would fight the government at every turn like Joesph Smith and Brigham Young......to tampon string pulling government worshipping ******* like Harry Reid, Troutbum and The Thriller.
 
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Chalk it up to the devolution of Mormon badassery. Just look at the Bundy topic. Mormons went from bad *** explorers that would fight the government at every turn like Joesph Smith and Brigham Young......to tampon string pulling government worshipping ******* like Harry Reid, Troutbum and The Thriller.

Wow.. didn't know you have such strong feelings about these things...
 
Chalk it up to the devolution of Mormon badassery. Just look at the Bundy topic. Mormons went from bad *** explorers that would fight the government at every turn like Joesph Smith and Brigham Young......to tampon string pulling government worshipping ******* like Harry Reid, Troutbum and The Thriller.

Girl, please. I am far from a government worshiper, and even a cursory glance at my posts over the years will show you that. I can see, however, why you might think I am because I usually back the governments side of most arguments. That doesn't mean I am pro-government, it is mostly that I am anti-stupid people. The Bundy situation is a perfect example: pay your fees like everyone else, or you get in trouble. If you want to fight it, do it through the courts (which he did, and lost. Several times.). The guy has had 20ish years of warnings and second chances, but instead of doing the right thing, he chose to carry on with the abortion that we've all been talking about the last week. I support the Feds 100% in this one and not the guy who thought he was better than everyone else.

I think you'll find that this is the case with most of the political/whatever this is discussions are like.

I am Anti-Idiot, through and through.
 
Girl, please. I am far from a government worshiper, and even a cursory glance at my posts over the years will show you that. I can see, however, why you might think I am because I usually back the governments side of most arguments. That doesn't mean I am pro-government, it is mostly that I am anti-stupid people. The Bundy situation is a perfect example: pay your fees like everyone else, or you get in trouble. If you want to fight it, do it through the courts (which he did, and lost. Several times.). The guy has had 20ish years of warnings and second chances, but instead of doing the right thing, he chose to carry on with the abortion that we've all been talking about the last week. I support the Feds 100% in this one and not the guy who thought he was better than everyone else.

I think you'll find that this is the case with most of the political/whatever this is discussions are like.

I am Anti-Idiot, through and through.

I hate agreeing with Trout.
 
Chalk it up to the devolution of Mormon badassery. Just look at the Bundy topic. Mormons went from bad *** explorers that would fight the government at every turn like Joesph Smith and Brigham Young......to tampon string pulling government worshipping ******* like Harry Reid, Troutbum and The Thriller.

I had a big conversation about this recently about Joseph Smith. Wasn't he pretty liberal by today's standards?

Gave priesthood to AA.
Ran for President where his platform was to free slaves
Had multiple sexual partners
Made his followers engage in communism for a time (law of consecration)
Tried to control the banks/money of Mormons
Rumors that he allowed women to give blessings (priesthood)

How different would the Church be today if Joseph Smith hadn't been shot in Illinois, but instead led the saints to Utah? Very interesting stuff.
 
I had a big conversation about this recently about Joseph Smith. Wasn't he pretty liberal by today's standards?

Gave priesthood to AA.
Ran for President where his platform was to free slaves
Had multiple sexual partners
Made his followers engage in communism for a time (law of consecration)
Tried to control the banks/money of Mormons
Rumors that he allowed women to give blessings (priesthood)

How different would the Church be today if Joseph Smith hadn't been shot in Illinois, but instead led the saints to Utah? Very interesting stuff.

Maybe he goes all-in with the Colorado City model of living.

Made his followers engage in communism for a time (law of consecration)

Which he admitted would only work if Jesus Christ himself were running it. Good lesson for the world....

But yeah, I definitely was only commenting on both of their adventurous/fighting spirits, not anything else. That's why I like both of them. It's hard to get context for anything else. He was trying to govern a flock outside of government. My simple opinion is that Joseph Smith liked the idea of government if he were the one leading it. If he's an average...well....Joe....I think his views go completely contrary from that. I don't think people were very invested in that type of thing outside of their groups/themselves back then though.

Just take one of his presidential platforms for example:

The most important plank in Joseph’s platform concerned the powers of the president. Joseph wanted to give the chief magistrate “full power to send an army to suppress mobs … [without requiring] the governor of a state to make the demand.

Obviously he had reasons for feeling like that was necessary....but that would make no sense without him being the one using that power. He would be leading the "mob" that got smashed down if anybody else had that power.
 
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