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Pornography or not pornography?

Is it equivalent to pornography for a woman to go around topless?

  • Yes, absolutely

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, that's ridiculous

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • It depends, but generally no.

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • It depends, but generally yes.

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • It should be fine for anyone to be topless at any time especially in their own home.

    Votes: 7 30.4%

  • It's wrong, even for men but especially for women.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't care, so I'm a dick for even voting in the poll.

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Total voters
    23
JazzGal said:
I'm not offended. Just making a comment.
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fair enough. Believe it or not i'm incredibly pro holding people like Weinstein to account and am glad this movement has finally happened. Using humour to take a backhanded swipe at something is something i have zero problem with in any issue.
 
JFFR said:
I'm trying to understand "There is nothing inherently sexual about a woman's breasts." Do you really think that is true? They are an erogenous zone. Are men who grew up in communities that have topless women not attracted to breasts? (Honest question - maybe they are still attracted but not as obsessed? I think I've heard pornography isn't as big of a deal in other countries.)


When I was at the Musée d'Orsay in France there was a class of pre-teens gathered around a nude sculpture called "Woman bitten by a Serpent". It depicts a woman in the middle of ecstasy. I was a bit shocked that their teacher/tour guide had chosen that piece for a group of pre-teens, but maybe the European's know better than us of Puritanical descent (and I honestly don't know who the group was, maybe they were a group of prodigies in sculpting.)
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There are lots of erogenous zones. Should we cover all of them? Nipples are also erogenous for men and women can be attracted to mens chests.

I'm attracted to boobs but I'm also attracted to lots of things. Probably there just attractive feature to be of women is their face. Should we cover those up?

When I've been around lots of naked people it's exciting to see attractive people's boobs at first but then it's more just normal. Yes, you notice attractive people and their boobs still but just the same as I would if I was at the beach with swim suits or in public with all clothes on. Nothing really changes.
 
One Brow said:
So, you get to decide what's painful for other people?
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Who decides this then? and should we live our lives with this constant filter of is an off hand remark going to cause pain to x, y or z? what a dull discourse we would create. You know man i had a ****ing horrible day at work yesterday about **** that i can't talk about in a public forum and won't tell my family or girlfriend about, its that ****ed. We all have our own trauma, deal with it in your own way but don't expect others to deal with theirs the way you do with your own.
 
Rubashov said:
Who decides this then? and should we live our lives with this constant filter of is an off hand remark going to cause pain to x, y or z? what a dull discourse we would create. You know man i had a ****ing horrible day at work yesterday about **** that i can't talk about in a public forum and won't tell my family or girlfriend about, its that ****ed. We all have our own trauma, deal with it in your own way but don't expect others to deal with theirs the way you do with your own.
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****ing oath you rude obnoxious lovable ****
 
Ron Mexico said:
There are lots of erogenous zones. Should we cover all of them? Nipples are also erogenous for men and women can be attracted to mens chests.

I'm attracted to boobs but I'm also attracted to lots of things. Probably there just attractive feature to be of women is their face. Should we cover those up?

When I've been around lots of naked people it's exciting to see attractive people's boobs at first but then it's more just normal. Yes, you notice attractive people and their boobs still but just the same as I would if I was at the beach with swim suits or in public with all clothes on. Nothing really changes.
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Well said.
 
Douchebag K said:
other people can see things how they like and they can choose how they react. I'm not deciding anything for anyone. Unlike you
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What decisions have I made for anyone? I don't think pointing out the consequences of a decision is the same as making that decision.
 
Rubashov said:
Who decides this then? and should we live our lives with this constant filter of is an off hand remark going to cause pain to x, y or z? what a dull discourse we would create. You know man i had a ****ing horrible day at work yesterday about **** that i can't talk about in a public forum and won't tell my family or girlfriend about, its that ****ed. We all have our own trauma, deal with it in your own way but don't expect others to deal with theirs the way you do with your own.
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I have no trouble talking about my pain, my ideas, and my struggles without causing pain for other people. I think you can be both polite and frank in a conversation.
 
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