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Handlogten's Heros said:
No I was saying CJ last night looked better than Burke has ever looked in any night. Burke has been good... I'm pleased with him. Our offense is pretty awful saying we wouldn't have shots for CJ is ridiculous. Trey had freedom in the past and it wasn't great. CJ shoots 18 shots a night... Give him Trey's 9, one from each guy in the starting lineup, one of Booker/Ingles/etc. You could get close to 18 really quick.

Burke has played well, and good for him... I'm happy for him. He's taken a little more abuse than he deserves. CJ is the better player though and it's not close.
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Ok using your logic Trey is really shooting 54% from the field which is 5% point better than CJ. With several guys struggling with their shots why aren't there more shots for Burke like they hypothetically would for McCollum?

Also Trey has 20+point double digit assist games and some 25+ point games under his belt. Your opinion of McCollum being better is fair, but he doesn't have a long standing history in this league. Trey has more big games then McCollum.
 
da ThRONe said:
Ok using your logic Trey is really shooting 54% from the field which is 5% point better than CJ. With several guys struggling with their shots why aren't there more shots for Burke like they hypothetically would for McCollum?

Also Trey has 20+point double digit assist games and some 25+ point games under his belt. Your opinion of McCollum being better is fair, but he doesn't have a long standing history in this league. Trey has more big games then McCollum.
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Oh boy. Anyone wanna retort this refuse?
 
da ThRONe said:
Ok using your logic Trey is really shooting 54% from the field which is 5% point better than CJ. With several guys struggling with their shots why aren't there more shots for Burke like they hypothetically would for McCollum?

Also Trey has 20+point double digit assist games and some 25+ point games under his belt. Your opinion of McCollum being better is fair, but he doesn't have a long standing history in this league. Trey has more big games then McCollum.
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You have to be kidding me. CJ hasn't had the opportnities until this year. Trey has been playing better, but nowhere near the level of CJ this year.
 
fishonjazz said:
Saturday we are meeting up at All Star Bowling Lanes to watch a jazz game and do some bowling. Right now I believe there are 4 of us that are going for sure and a few others that are maybeez
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I might be able to make that. I'll see what I can do. I assume you'll be the one with the 70's get up and the gold chains. Shouldn't be that hard to find. =)
 
da ThRONe said:
Ok using your logic Trey is really shooting 54% from the field which is 5% point better than CJ. With several guys struggling with their shots why aren't there more shots for Burke like they hypothetically would for McCollum?

Also Trey has 20+point double digit assist games and some 25+ point games under his belt. Your opinion of McCollum being better is fair, but he doesn't have a long standing history in this league. Trey has more big games then McCollum.
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Trey has had a crapload more terrible to awful games than CJ McCollum .. The comparison isn't even close between those two.
 
da ThRONe said:
Ok using your logic Trey is really shooting 54% from the field which is 5% point better than CJ. With several guys struggling with their shots why aren't there more shots for Burke like they hypothetically would for McCollum?

Also Trey has 20+point double digit assist games and some 25+ point games under his belt. Your opinion of McCollum being better is fair, but he doesn't have a long standing history in this league. Trey has more big games then McCollum.
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Trey is shooting 50%... can't just remove shots and change percentages unless you've watched all of CJ's games and do the same. Both guys got the same amount of shots last night but Burke played 9 less minutes. If Trey was on the court as much as CJ he would be shooting just about 14ish shots a night. If a guy is shooting 49/42/85 like CJ is you give him more shots. He is also shooting a ton of threes so the point per shot is in his favor.

Trey would never have a night like CJ did last night because if he was approaching 10/13 from the field he's start shot hunting. CJ scored 27 pts on 13 shots and they dominated a good team on the road. Trey is fine and if he keeps his play up I will be really happy with him... but he just isn't as good as CJ and it doesn't matter to me what jersey they put on.
 
Zapper7246 said:
I might be able to make that. I'll see what I can do. I assume you'll be the one with the 70's get up and the gold chains. Shouldn't be that hard to find. =)
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Lol

I will be in either a Burks, favors, or Gobert jersey. Tall dude. Have a jazz tattoo on my arm (the note logo)
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
You have to be kidding me. CJ hasn't had the opportnities until this year. Trey has been playing better, but nowhere near the level of CJ this year.
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I swear some of you people on this board comprehension skills are seriously lacking. CJ has played better than Trey the 5 or 4 games respectively I already said that. The point is McCollum won't come to a team like the Jazz with so many other guys looking for their offense and take 18.5 shots a game he's averaging now.
 
fishonjazz said:
Lol

I will be in either a Burks, favors, or Gobert jersey. Tall dude. Have a jazz tattoo on my arm (the note logo)
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Sounds good. Hope I can make it. It's usually not good for me to be in a public/family setting when The Jazz play. Especially if they play like they did last night. Lol


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Handlogten's Heros said:
Trey is shooting 50%... can't just remove shots and change percentages unless you've watched all of CJ's games and do the same. Both guys got the same amount of shots last night but Burke played 9 less minutes. If Trey was on the court as much as CJ he would be shooting just about 14ish shots a night. If a guy is shooting 49/42/85 like CJ is you give him more shots. He is also shooting a ton of threes so the point per shot is in his favor.

Trey would never have a night like CJ did last night because if he was approaching 10/13 from the field he's start shot hunting. CJ scored 27 pts on 13 shots and they dominated a good team on the road. Trey is fine and if he keeps his play up I will be really happy with him... but he just isn't as good as CJ and it doesn't matter to me what jersey they put on.
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Actually there's stats that say McCollum haven't heaved the ball. Trey has two which aren't legit shot attempts.

You keep talking about one game. Where they both took the same attempts and ignoring all the other games were they haven't. I can make any case I want if I'm doing so on a one game basis. And what is "shot hunting"? You mean shooting when your hot? Trey has 30 point games.

Burke 54/40/100 McCollum 49/42/85
 
da ThRONe said:
I swear some of you people on this board comprehension skills are seriously lacking. CJ has played better than Trey the 5 or 4 games respectively I already said that. The point is McCollum won't come to a team like the Jazz with so many other guys looking for their offense and take 18.5 shots a game he's averaging now.
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Jazz could have drafted cj. He doesn't choose who drafts him
 
da ThRONe said:
Actually there's stats that say McCollum haven't heaved the ball. Trey has two which aren't legit shot attempts.

You keep talking about one game. Where they both took the same attempts and ignoring all the other games were they haven't. I can make any case I want if I'm doing so on a one game basis. And what is "shot hunting"? You mean shooting when your hot? Trey has 30 point games.

Burke 54/40/100 McCollum 49/42/85
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Sweet what about last second on the 24 shot clock where CJ may have shot a desperation shot? You can't just say the percentages should be numbers they shouldn't. In either case the raw percentages don't tell the full story. CJ takes more threes (and more shots as you've noted). CJ's true shooting percentage is 59% Trey's is 55.6%. CJ is doing that with increased volume and generally the more shots you get the lower it goes.

I am not comparing them over one game... just simply stated Trey has never had a game like CJ had last night. Yes he's had 30 point games against teams like minny, detroit, and one good one against SA... they were never that efficient though. CJ controlled the game and deliberately got almost exactly what he wanted all night. It was just one game though I get it.

Your statement that Trey has not had freedom and intimating that we don't know what they would look like in the other team's system is pretty silly. They ran pick and roll to death and crushed us on it... I'm pretty sure Trey gets to run PnR plenty. i don't think burke sucks, but CJ is better. Last night was part of the evidence.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Not really, Nugz suck. We play Portland 3 more times and they are sure to be the main competition for the 8th seed. If we can't figure out Damian Lillard, its hello #14 pick.
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Meh... we played really ****ty last night. They were super hot... they won't always shoot that well and if they do they won't have the 8th seed it will be the 4th-6th seed.
 
Blazers call and offer CJ for Burke and we wouldn't be able to say yes fast enough. We'd figure out how to get him shots later.
 
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