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Yes, that's very telling indeed. Please tell me how suggesting that American politics needs to steer away from foreign influence regardless of what country it comes from is antisemitic. In no way or form she mentioned anything about the jewish people, please inform yourself. Stop spewing nonsense. It's not hard.
Yep. The House just decided to vote on that for no reason. Wake up man.

Back to the Jazz.

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Both Westbrick and this dude are idiots. Can we all agree with that? Ban the fan and fine Westbrick for antagonizing fans and conduct detrimental to the NBA.
I will agree with that unless the dude simply said something to the effect of "sit down and ice your knees"
In that case the fan didn't anything wrong imo.

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Says the guy who BRAGGED several times about filing for bankruptcy as a business tool. Who got left holding your bag?

Most people in real estate development have had to use it as a tool... most often investors hold the bag... they are generally wealthy individuals that understand this stuff is an investment... banks have some recourse and take their share of the loss... they are also big boys and know what they are getting into. Finally often times the actual developer loses it all or most of it too. Almost always it is not the “developers” bag but everyone’s bag and something outside of everyone’s control is what causes the down turn and the bad investment... it happens no one is evil or wrong or immoral for pursuing their own interests when **** hits the fan.
 
Tough to win people to your way of thinking when I chose what I believed to be the lesser of two bad choices and am told I have no sense of decency because of it. It was a hard choice... both sides could have won a lot of people in the middle had they brought better candidates. I lean more toward traditional republican ideas but didn’t want a reality tv guy to be president... the Clinton family has some **** out there too... they just aren’t brazen throwing dumb stuff on Twitter. I probably would have voted for Bernie even though I thought he was too old and didn’t agree with most of his “more socialist” ideas.

Sorry man, there's just no excuse for voting for Trump after what was well known about him and the insane **** he did before the election.

It's not labeling, stereotyping or political to call out Trump supporters.
 
Westbrook was looking for trouble and so was the fan. They both got what they planned on and Utah's reputation and the NBA's will suffer for it.

Now that I can agree with... this is a turd sandwich.
 
I have to say this... this message board (of sports boards) is the most sensitive and aggressive than any others I visit.

It’s like every damn thread has one “group” bitching about another “group.”

The board would be way more enjoyable if the Jazz fans found solidarity in “their” team (good or bad) instead of everything being so political. Why not just post that **** on a political forum and talk about the Jazz here??
I mostly agree with you though I will say that I honestly feel that I have become a little bit better and more caring person due to having my mind changed and faults pointed out by some of the posters on jazzfanz relating to political ****.

Some of the social justice warriors pointing out my offensive and things like that have probably changed me a little bit for the better.

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Glad to see all discussion has been about trying to let the racist ******* off the hook instead of talking about ways we can fix the terrible reputation of our fan base. Nice job guys.
 
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Sorry man, there's just no excuse for voting for Trump after what was well known about him and the insane **** he did before the election.

I'm just pointing out it's not labeling, stereotyping or political to call out Trump supporters.
Of course there is. It's okay to support record economic growth, record unemployment, record female employment, record minority employment and still dislike a bunch about President Trump.

I don't like the man, but he is doing a good job. I don't agree with everything Chick Fil A stands for, but damn they make great food.

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Sorry man, there's just no excuse for voting for Trump after what was well known about him and the insane **** he did before the election.

It's not labeling, stereotyping or political to call out Trump supporters.

My view of politics just says they are all immoral and that trumps **** was just completely public. I appreciated his business background and felt like at least that was something I could hang my hat on. Couldn’t trust the Clintons and the other stuff didn’t line up... but I guess that makes me a racist ******* who beats his wife and cheats his taxes while making millions off of the little guy.
 
Honest question, have any of you threatened to beat up a woman? If so, what did she do to make you that mad? It's never crossed my mind personally.
No. And I have been assaulted by a couple of women before. Never even thought about hitting them back. (They were hitting and slapping me cause I saw a fight between a group of women going down at the Sandy station and jumped in the fray to try to break up the fighting.)

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Glad to see all discussion has been about trying to let the racist ******* off the hook instead of talking about ways we can fix the terrible reputation of our fan base. Nice job guys.

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This guy is trash... Westbrook is trash... joe ingles is the last good person.
 
You really need to read between the lines and stop spewing out the garbage you are taking in.

If you want to know the world we live in, just take this. Trump's first and only national park is to recognize African Americans who fought in the civil war and all the media left can do is spin it like it was only a campaign move : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...al-monument-honoring-african-american-troops/

I'm sure Trump named that monument to make all his white nationalist supporters happy.

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Dude, Trump, a man who was sued and censured for discriminating against black tenants, ran primarily on a promise to build a wall to keep the raping, murdering Mexicans out. All the meanwhile his fans chanted "build that wall!".

There was nothing about the libertarian values, like small government, that conservatives pretended to care about because what they actually care about hasn't been part of mainstream politics since the 80s.

So you can go around pretending to support Trump to stick it to MSNBC or whatever. But the reality is clear, if you support Trump, then you support the racist Trumpian vision for America.

But by all means, continue patting each others backs and telling yourself that you're not racist just because you support a racist.
 
This is the exact attitude in the media and public that lost you the election.

Not a trump supporter not a Hillary supporter but had to vote for someone... if I vote for one person the other party says I’m a socialist voting for a corrupt person... if I vote for the other person I’m a redneck moron and obvious racist...
Good post except you don't have to vote for someone.
I'm 41 years old and only voted once in my life.

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Glad to see all discussion has been about trying to let the racist ******* off the hook instead of talking about ways we can fix the terrible reputation of our fan base. Nice job guys.

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If this is truly this fan's account, that is unacceptable. There is no reason whatsoever to tolerate that.

Doesn't matter - Westbrook didnt know this guys twitter when he did what he did. Twitter didn't matter when a pro athlete threatened a fan and his female companion.

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First Take opened with this story. Steven A sides completely with Westbrook. Said that Westbrook wouldn't lie. Brought up how bad Utah fans were to Rodman.

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Fans were bad to rodman? Westbrook? Who's next, boogie? Draymond? I'm seeing a trend here.
Maybe fans are bad to players who act like jerks constantly? Wierd.

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I bet all the non-racist Trump supporters here think whites make better quarterbacks because they're smarter.
 
I was super disappointed to vote for trump... I have three daughters and **** he said made me sick... I was just sad for where the country had gone... I’d have voted for Biden, Bernie, Obama... The Clinton family scared me.

I likely won’t vote this time around if there aren’t good candidates I feel I can vote for without feeling gross. Trump has done good with the economy which is why I voted for him but he’s not a good person and all the extra stuff is just too much.
 
Most people in real estate development have had to use it as a tool... most often investors hold the bag... they are generally wealthy individuals that understand this stuff is an investment... banks have some recourse and take their share of the loss... they are also big boys and know what they are getting into. Finally often times the actual developer loses it all or most of it too. Almost always it is not the “developers” bag but everyone’s bag and something outside of everyone’s control is what causes the down turn and the bad investment... it happens no one is evil or wrong or immoral for pursuing their own interests when **** hits the fan.
Thanks.

Though in my case I had a predatory lender breaking fiduciary duty in an attempt at a hostile takeover of assets.
I filed for bankruptcy as a protective measure while I brought to light what the bad guys were trying to do and was successful.

I have never ever used bankruptcy as a means to not pay a debt to an investor or otherwise, but only to stay a stupid lawsuit (that I won as well) and the one with the one breaking lender liability laws.
 
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