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The Thriller said:
I love how critics of Bernie talk about 90 percent taxes. As if there’s no difference between the type of tax increase Sanders, Warren, and AOC are talking about. No difference between marginal tax rates or income tax rates... when you have to resort to deceitful scare tactics... lol
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They do like to leave that little word 'marginal' out a lot when bringing it up. I'm sure they aren't being disingenuous at all though...
 
Dr. Jones said:
I don’t believe this is even true. Of the 100 or so Mormon I know closely.. they loathe Trump, personally.. but policy-wise prefer his over the next best option. I know very few Mormons that actually support the person.
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This. Hated both candidates but knew trump would be pro business... living in CA it is something I welcome as CA actively fights business it seems.

I don’t know that anyone can rise in politics to any substantial level while embodying what Mormons believe.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
This. Hated both candidates but knew trump would be pro business... living in CA it is something I welcome as CA actively fights business it seems.

I don’t know that anyone can rise in politics to any substantial level while embodying what Mormons believe.
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Actually, my favorite candidate from the last 20 years was Mitt. (Again, I’m not Mormon)

I have followed Mitt since before I even knew he was Mormon. He sold out to the tea party and became a puppet. I was so disappointed.

Having said that, he’s my guy if he is “him” and trades on his values.

The feel-good stories I have “on” Mitt are incredible and little-known even by Mormons.. dude is LEGIT.
 
Zombie said:
They do like to leave that little word 'marginal' out a lot when bringing it up. I'm sure they aren't being disingenuous at all though...
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Drive up taxes and the rich will leave with their money and jobs... I have several clients that live in Nevada, Texas, and Utah because of the business environment in CA. Make it hard and expensive and the rich will find the work arounds.

Marginal or whatever... I’m all for rich paying their fair share... make it excessive and you’ll get buried.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Drive up taxes and the rich will leave with their money and jobs... I have several clients that live in Nevada, Texas, and Utah because of the business environment in CA. Make it hard and expensive and the rich will find the work arounds.

Marginal or whatever... I’m all for rich paying their fair share... make it excessive and you’ll get buried.
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Some will at the margins I'm sure, still though, for all the talk of high taxes and burdensome regulations California has become the world's fifth largest economy. Obviously they are doing something right.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Actually, my favorite candidate from the last 20 years was Mitt. (Again, I’m not Mormon)

I have followed Mitt since before I even knew he was Mormon. He sold out to the tea party and became a puppet. I was so disappointed.

Having said that, he’s my guy if he is “him” and trades on his values.

The feel-good stories I have “on” Mitt are incredible and little-known even by Mormons.. dude is LEGIT.
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I like Mitt... it was more about business than religion. He seems like about as good as you can get morally.

I can’t believe trump is our president... but I was more in disbelief that it was either him or Hillary... didn’t agree with Obama but understood why people believed in him... he’s charismatic AF.
 
Zombie said:
Some will at the margins I'm sure, still though, for all the talk of high taxes and burdensome regulations California has become the world's fifth largest economy. Obviously they are doing something right.
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Huge economy... immense resources... huge population... desirable weather... huge tax rates... as soon as there is a slight downturn in the economy we will be broke as a joke again.

California was born on third base.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I like Mitt... it was more about business than religion. He seems like about as good as you can get morally.

I can’t believe trump is our president... but I was more in disbelief that it was either him or Hillary... didn’t agree with Obama but understood why people believed in him... he’s charismatic AF.
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You must be Mormon.. which is totally cool. Because you made an excuse for Mitt, like you did, where he didn’t need it. Mitt is a GREAT dude. It’s sad that Mormons are in the place they have to apologize for a Mormon candidate.
 
LoPo said:
So if somebody is "MAGA", he's just a piece of ****? Is that what the consensus is? Isn't this how racism or antisemitism started in the first place? Just labeling a group of people as less than?

Don't act like you are both stereotyping or shaming a group of people and then stereotype and shame a group of people.
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This. The hipocrisy is unreal with some people. Especially some in this very thread and then they wonder why people on the opposite aisle won't listen to them.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Huge economy... immense resources... huge population... desirable weather... huge tax rates... as soon as there is a slight downturn in the economy we will be broke as a joke again.

California was born on third base.
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Many of those things are true for the US as a whole. Obviously there are more factors than just tax rates that come into play for so called job creators, and there are ways to make sure the wealthiest don't skip out on the bill if they do decide to pack up and leave.
 
LoPo said:
Not true. Just like Obama, you can like some stuff and dislike other stuff. Just because Obama was an awesome dude doesn't mean he did as good a job as Trump is currently doing.

Stop being so emotional. Cult leader? Lol.
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Obama didn’t molest women, mock the handicapped, call white supremacists ‘very good people’, give hush money to a porn start he ****ed while in the Oval Office, and wasn’t a ****ing dumbass in general.

These ‘both sides suck’ arguments annoy me sometimes. Did we learn nothing as a country? An egotistical maniac has his finger on the button. Do we have to keep playing both sides right now? Can we put a sensible human being in charge, who at the very least will attempt to do what’s best for the country and world? And then we can work on the smaller issues.

And Trumpers PLEASE come at me. Tell me I’m wrong. Receipts are plentiful. I’ll take on any MAGA dumbasses hiding out around here.
 
Dr. Jones said:
You must be Mormon.. which is totally cool. Because you made an excuse for Mitt, like you did, where he didn’t need it. Mitt is a GREAT dude. It’s sad that Mormons are in the place they have to apologize for a Mormon candidate.
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I am. I would have loved for the guy to run again... I liked him because he was a business guy and not a career politician. Just wanted it to be clear it wasn't because he was mormon. I'm sure he's a great dude.. i believe you... didn't apologize for him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I am. I would have loved for the guy to run again... I liked him because he was a business guy and not a career politician. Just wanted it to be clear it wasn't because he was mormon. I'm sure he's a great dude.. i believe you... didn't apologize for him.
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Would love to share some personal stories of him you may not have heard. You game?
 
Dr. Jones said:
You still Inn cedar? How’s your kids??
I loved how you’d post about them and their importance.. as it should be. You good?
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I finally got to me meet him at a playoff game meet up last season

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Bawse Dawg said:
Obama didn’t molest women, mock the handicapped, call white supremacists ‘very good people’, give hush money to a porn start he ****ed while in the Oval Office, and wasn’t a ****ing dumbass in general.

These ‘both sides suck’ arguments annoy me sometimes. Did we learn nothing as a country? An egotistical maniac has his finger on the button. Do we have to keep playing both sides right now? Can we put a sensible human being in charge, who at the very least will attempt to do what’s best for the country and world? And then we can work on the smaller issues.

And Trumpers PLEASE come at me. Tell me I’m wrong. Receipts are plentiful. I’ll take on any MAGA dumbasses hiding out around here.
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B-b-b-but Hillary was cold, calculating, and corrupt! It was actually a really hard decision ok!!

/s
 
Dr. Jones said:
Actually, my favorite candidate from the last 20 years was Mitt. (Again, I’m not Mormon)

I have followed Mitt since before I even knew he was Mormon. He sold out to the tea party and became a puppet. I was so disappointed.

Having said that, he’s my guy if he is “him” and trades on his values.

The feel-good stories I have “on” Mitt are incredible and little-known even by Mormons.. dude is LEGIT.
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I like Romney.

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