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Pre-Clutch City tears thread (Rockets @ Jazz)

I keep waiting for Rubio's game to make me smile again...

...and waiting

...and waiting

Oh to hell with it, put Mitchell back in the game.
 
The Jazz need to abandon the offense going thru Gobert. I don't care what stats say. The offense struggles.

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Ron: Gobert needs to fight for space on rebounds and put a body on his man. Even if he gets shoved he can get it or another Jazz man. Don't rely on length.
Ron: Wow, that was a lot of contact on sef
str8line: Nice D by Royce
ONE: Not a great offensive team out there now
dong2ha: looks like a lot of fouls but they are not
Aneurism: No one bothers to stick to Rubio
Ron: Oh, I thought Royce had a big dunk coming there.
yamers: we look lost in the sauce
MVP: refs letting a lot of contact go
str8line: Always Show Names in the settings is perfect, thanks One.
sahlensguy: Agreed thanks
ONE: @str8line, it was actually @ron's suggestion, I've asked Jason to have it set as default, let's hope it's doable
Witty: at least we are not letting the rockets run away
Witty: they all look a little huffy
Ron:
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So what means more to this team? Offensive flow or lock down defense? With Gobert the offense doesn't flow as it does with Favors. Yet the defense isn't as good without Gobert. So what is the priority?
 
str8line: Default makes sense.
Ron: It should be the default.
str8line: Teams seem to HATE to lose to the Jazz.
Saint: when the jazz blow teams out i get bored and wish for a competitive hard fought gmae
Saint: but when those games come i just want to blow a bish out
Ron: I want close games we win, but not against Houston. I want us to win by 100 every game.
str8line: Don't want a blowout, want a knife twisting win at the end
framer: Jazz shooting 35% from the field and still in the game. I would have guessed we would be down 15 with that percentage.
yamers: james HARDOn
MVP: good defensive effort Mitchell
str8line: Burks trying to do too much.
Ron: Don of a Mitch gets up high in defense a lot.
yamers: lmao
yamers: burks in full idiot mode
str8line: Most ridiculous flop ever by Chrissy there.
ONE: Good defense on CP3
Ron: Lol, Chrissy flop alert
Jazz4ever: Capella really good at stripping Rudy
yamers: chrissy bitchy floppy pauly
Rubashov: Jesus AB
Saint: did gobert lose th ball before ht foul lol?
Saint: couldnt tell
str8line: How can Chrissy live with himself?
Aneurism: @saint yes.. he shouldn't have gotten that foul
Rubashov: The money id guess
yamers: how many fouls on capela?
Saint: niec, 3 fouls on capella
Ron: This is a Jazz type of game. We are at least seeing the tone
str8line: My GOD. Mitchell.
Ron: !!!
MVP: watching Rockets feed, they are gushing over Mitchell
Rubashov: Nice
ONE: I love this game!!
yamers: https://media3.giphy.com/media/9wZMlnM0R06l2/giphy.gif?cid=8e2f2bd95a2a145c4b4d4a744d69c81f" alt="" style="width:179px" />
dong2ha: mitchell god
Ron: Sef is having a career year. I did not expect this from him.
Jazzta: Thaboooooo!
Saint: great miss by RUbio
Rubashov: Get some
str8line: Mitchell doing everything.
Saint: basically an assist
Witty: i can scream at rubio
Saint: ill take Gobert guarding TUcker all ****ing day
yamers: i hate when mitchell is posted up in the corner
Ron: Easy call
Aneurism: wtf is rubio doing
ONE: We're beating the No 1 team in the NBA
Witty: rubio posting up and letting the defense collapse
Aneurism: he doesn't even attempt to create a shot for himself when driving
ONE: Gotta be happy with that
Saint: rubio not being able to go up 1 on 1 in the post and get a shot off with a floater really hurts him
Ron: That's the bad Mitchell.
dong2ha: sloppy...
str8line: Honestly guys I think Mitchell is the fourth best player on our team. Maybe 3b. LOL
Saint: if he could just rise over the top of anyone


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yamers: thats absurd
Aneurism: I hate ingles' bounce passes
Ron: Mitchell has been our best player over the last few games.
yamers: 2 back to back IDIOTIC mind farts
Jazzta: we can't afford these casual turnovers
Aneurism: it's almost always a turnover
Rubashov: Travel!!!
Saint: rubio what you doing so deep inteh paint
str8line: Inside joke guys...
dong2ha: miss exum
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Jazzta: mr exum I believe
ONE: i get you @str8line LOL
yamers: any trade bvalue rubio had at the start of the season is empty and gone
yamers: it's probably a bag of chips
MVP: two guys talking.... one is asking , hey did you try having sex in .... you know other hole?
Saint: Jazz's biggest enemy is always perimeter pressure
yamers: there is not a single team in this league who would want somebody that awful
Saint: blows up their ball movement
MVP: the other answering, no way, dude what if she gets pregnant
Saint: and we get these bad turnovers
ONE: @yamers, just be happy we didn't lock Hill to a long term expensive contract
yamers: ^true


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str8line: Wong hole!
Ron: Oh man. I should have gone to tonight's game. I had upper bowl tickets but thought I was to good for them.
Aneurism: Most of the time I think we only ever have a chance because of the bench
Jazzta: that elephant ad gets me every time ?
Ron: We do have the deepest team in the NBA.
ONE: @ron, you're too good for upper bowl seats?
Rubashov: Rons a snob
Ron: That was just a joke. I didn't get home from work in time.
ONE: haha ok
dong2ha: rubio wtf...
yamers: good night
Ellipse: I'm really starting to hate Rubio.
Ron: Although after getting VIP tickets I can't go back to normal tickets.
yamers: im done
str8line: Mitchell can do whatever he wants out there. It might be a bit before his shooting % levels out though.
yamers: can't watch rubio anymore
Rubashov: Lies
MVP: lol so many sloppy passes
ONE: Rubio's losing it
Rubashov: Jesus wept
Saint: rubio wat u doing
Ron: I thought we were over these stupid turnovers.
Saint: tht was a good pass to favors
Aneurism: My take on it is if rubio only plays 20 it doubles our chances of winning
DownUnder: seriously i think Rubio is now obselete to this team.
Jazz4ever: Rubio has played 14 minutes and yet to get an assist, rebound, or field goal
str8line: Wow great pass by Ingles. I think he's our second best player.
Witty: whats rubio contract situation again?
Ron: Nice pass nice finish faves and Ingles
Saint: uggh
Saint: i want to love Rubio
Saint: he was so fun to start the year
str8line: LOL.
yamers: you can admit I was right
yamers: its ok
MVP: Harden is taking Mitchell to scholl
Rubashov: Nice to see you come out like that cy
str8line: Rubio sucks. The sooner we accept it the better.
Jazzta: Y'all hating on Rubio is plain laughable
Ron: I can handle Rubios poor shooting. I can't handle the really stupid turnovers anymore. To start the season, sure. This far in? Hell no
Aneurism: @MVP DM needs to be schooled.. he'll learn and grow
ONE: that's ok @MVP, hopefully Mitchell can copy his moves
ONE: then give back double
ONE: always give back double
MVP: I actually like it that Snyder put DM on Harden. Baptism by fire
yamers: jazzta are you blind or rubios famiyl member?
dong2ha: help d favs?
Aneurism: pretty bad D there
dong2ha: ****
ONE: wow..
Ron: I still think Rubio can come around but I'm losing faith. I thought I would love him but... Here we are.
Rubashov: ****
Witty: rubio turning it over more than he assists is plain laughable
str8line: Ingles!
yamers:
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ONE: Webber makes a good point, whre's the help?
JazzMan4Life: Awful defense there


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Ron: Nice ball movement team?
Saint: not much ingle can do
Ron: !
Saint: 1 on 1 vs Harden
dong2ha: ****ing hate harden
Rubashov: I hate harden too
ONE: we're still in this, guys
MVP: Hardens first step is so quick
Ron: I hate that most of hardens game is getting fouls. It's miserable to watch.
Witty: so is quinn saving thabo for harden or what
Jazz4ever: Harden taking us to the wood shed
MVP: I think only Sefalosha can bother him
Rubashov: What happens in the wood shed?
Witty: the **** is dantoni complaining about to the ref
Ron: Wow! Mitch!
Aneurism: @ron if he fixes his jump shot and adds a floater then he has a chance.. The problem is he doesn't seem to put in the work to improve
Ron: I agree aneurism
ONE: Mitchell is amazing
dong2ha: mitchell doing it all
str8line: Mitchell once again. Reminds me of Jordan, swear to god.
Ron: Well call me a Don of a Mitch! This kid is amazing
MVP: Not bad. Only 5 down.
Saint: nice
MVP: Just need to fix defense vs Harden
Saint: there is no fixing harden defense
Rubashov: Yep not too bad
Saint: just hope he misses
dong2ha: yeah
dong2ha: he will just pass for a 3
DownUnder: lol how do you fix defending Harden exactly
dong2ha: if someone over helps
str8line: I mean, it's like he has so much athleticism he can toy with almost anyone.
dong2ha: very tough to guard
Ellipse: Mitchell hasn't taking a bad shot, he just missed.
JazzMan4Life: Hang in there 'til the 4th and we got this
MVP: Thabo did pretty good vs him
Jazzta: Seriously every game it's Rubio this Rubio that, it's the intangibles, he gives this team composure
Rubashov: And remember cy wants to love rubio.
dong2ha: rockets vs warriors will be all 3
dong2ha: 3 after 3 after 3
Ron: I don't see the Jordan comparisons but he is really good and a joy to watch. Mitchell remind me most of a slightly less athletic better shooting Wade.
str8line: Does Mitchell ever take bad shots? He ALWAYS gets his shot.
DownUnder: sorry dude, i really wanted to like Rubio but he is sucking
Rubashov: Another terrible halftime show awaits
str8line: Just the confidence of Jordan... Mitchell has that.
Rubashov: I like sucking
dong2ha: looks like jazz will introduce another jersey
dong2ha: wonder what that will look like
Rubashov: Greek friend of mine used to say a set of lips is a set of lips


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str8line: ...and the athleticism to make something happen.
yamers: OMG....yamers was right about rubio?
yamers: OMG WHAT!?
Ron: @Jazzta I agree at times he brings that but his turnovers kill us sometimes. They are really bad ones and shift momentum. I'm not sure what he is thin
Rubashov: And guys know what guys like
Rubashov: He was filth
Jazz4ever: Yamers your still in the hole about -300 on predictions
yamers: ive been spot on for my player evaluations
yamers: ty
Rubashov: Shut up yamers
yamers: you don't play in the NBA for 7seasons shooting under 40 and somehow fix your shot
Aneurism: @Jazzta Composure is all good and well..until you bring a negative +/- even every game,.. even when the team wins
Ron: @str8line I agree, his confidence is jordanesque. But more humble and more passionate about the game. He seems so happy playing, I never got that from
str8line: Will Ernie, Chuck, Shaq and Kenny discuss Donovan?
Jazzta: Nobody like you yamers
WVJazzfan: they better
Jazzta: Wait till it clicks with Rubio
str8line: Yeah, Jordan loved to s hit-talk.
Jazzta: the crow will taste good
str8line: C'mon, Rubio will serve no crow.
yamers: LMAo
yamers: LOL @ jazzta. has to be rubio's nan.
Rubashov: Man im probably going to have to get off the couch soon
Saint: I hope so
Saint: it seems like now w/ RUbio he is just playing a lot safer
Rubashov: Stuff nightmares are made of
Jazz4ever: Is this a once in a day thing
Saint: and making less of an impact, both negative and positive
Jazzta: No just a fan that knows that it takes Rubio a good half season to learn a system, it's always been like that
str8line: Seriously, what doesn't Mitchell have in his quiver? Finger role from 5ft.? Check.
Saint: still think he needs to add some kind of floater/push shot he can utilize when he drives into paint
Aneurism: I'll be happy to eat crow if Rubio improves to a point where he doesn't hurt the team


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str8line: He has a floater. Seen it many times.
Saint: cuz now he just goes into hte paint
Saint: and he can be guarded by 1 person
Saint: not forcing a lot of help D rotations
Saint: which I still think is a bigger issue than his shooting
Jazzta: Agreed there
Aneurism: He only got away with it in Minnesota because he was playing with bigs that could pop
WVJazzfan: if exum was healthy would rubio still start?
str8line: The teams will start helping very soon. He's getting better around the rim.
Aneurism: if exum were healthy rubio would be fighting with neto for a spot
str8line: Remember when he used to go in against the trees?
str8line: Not so much anymore.
Saint: maybe
Aneurism: and I'm not even sure exum is that much better than rubio
Edgewriter: I'm watching on TNT online and wow, these commercials are long. Two three minute breaks during the second half?
Aneurism: but at least exum can hit 3s
str8line: When he does he'll either stop and pop a finger roll or step out farther before throwing it up.
str8line: Or his floater...
dong2ha: i miss my boi exum
dong2ha: exum lob to rudy
dong2ha: damn it
dong2ha: **** tj warren
Aneurism: but i tend to think exum is really a rubio clone..
Aneurism: but taller
Jazzta: At least there's some constructive criticism, not just pure hate, it gets old man...
Jazz4ever: what mitchell doesnt have is the dunk in traffic. He had an ugly little floater in the first quarter that someone like Westbrook would have just dunke
Aneurism: which scares me
Edgewriter: I'm disappointed in Rubio. He should be so much better than he has been the last ten games or so.
str8line: We might look back on Exum's injury as a key to our championship(s).


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WVJazzfan: KG giving DM some love
str8line: Kind of like when Steph had his injuries.
Aneurism: @Jazz4ever, Mitchell is still a rookie.. so those holes should get filled over time.. he hasn't even had an offseason yet to work on his game with coa
Aneurism: ches
Saint: hopefully INgles doesnt keep bricking wide open 3's
Ellipse: Starting the 2nd half with Rubio is like putting a stone in Mitchell's shoe.
Saint: I dont think Rubio hurts Mitchell
Saint: I think there is a point of overload with MItchell doing PG duties
framer: See I kind of like that Mitchell only skies when he is in control. I don't ever want to see him injured.
Ellipse: But he hurts the unit. Place Mitchell next to Neto
framer: Hell I feel like the world is ending when Mitchell subs out.
framer: I have a problem. . .
Edgewriter: I'm sad to say it but right now I think trading Rubio and Derek Favors may be our best moves at the deadline.
LifeOnaPlate: I'd almost rather have Shelvin over Rubio right now.
str8line: True Jazz4ever, he doesn't have a dunk in traffic at speed off one foot.
Edgewriter: Rubio because he is underperforming. Derek because we won't be able to resign him.
str8line: JL III over Rubio.
Saint: best moves for what?
framer: People have forgotten life with Mack and JL#
Ron: I can't wait to see Exum Mitchell Hood Ingles and Gobert on the court one day
Aneurism: I had a look at JL3's stats vs rubios a few days ago.. JL3 was worse
Aneurism: but not by much
str8line: Ha!
framer: Shelvin next to Mitchell would be straight trash. U would be pissed every time he shot.
Ron: But can Rubio throw down in a fight like JL3
framer: At least Rubio brings a little D.
Witty: rubio should just punch someone
Aneurism: favors should have taken that 3


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Rodney Hood has a sore foot. Wtf? Between sore and pooping his pants the guy is always out.

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Saint: fun times
Ron: I like Rubios defense and hustle
Witty: ryan anderson is the kind of guy where his girlfriend kills herself
Saint: dude
Rubashov: thats harsh i like it
Saint: no
Saint: **** you
Ron: Wtf witty?
Saint: reported
Jazzta: On the bright side trading Rubio will keep me from reading stupid ****
str8line: So Trevor Booker to Sixers? He gonna win a championship.
framer: Remember how Exum was slowly developing that floater? Rubio needs that.
Ron: ****
str8line: LOL Witty.
Edgewriter: Defensively Rubio is great. He is just an offensive liability because the other team doesn't have to guard him
Rubashov: man cy you whinge alot
Rubashov: goddamn haden
yamers: 3 on mitchel
Aneurism: @ron he gets beaten a lot, then ends up behind the guy who beat him whilst waving his arms up around.. when no opponents are in that direction behind.
Saint: not something you joke about man
Saint: thats ****ed up
Witty: get over it you goose
str8line: Harden doing what he did last game to us.
Ron: Nice steal Rubio
yamers: rubio #1
LifeOnaPlate: Rubio sucks so much.
Ron: Oh! Mitchell just schooled harden!
Aneurism: When rubio gambles it does pay off sometimes.
str8line: BROKE HIS ANKLES!
yamers: oh ruvio
Edgewriter: Wow\
yamers: rubio could help trump
Rubashov: it ain't that bad
Ellipse: What the hell was that, Rudy?????
Saint: im over it, i reported you
str8line: Rudy has no confidence.
dong2ha: off night for mitchell
yamers:
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Ron: Lazy **** pass Gobert.
Saint: and now muting
dong2ha: mitchell is off ryan can't miss
str8line: Oh ****.
yamers: so frustrated
Saint: yeah, this is karma for witty's comments
LifeOnaPlate: Hate the Rockets.
Rubashov: I have a bad feeling about this
Saint: thanks a lot
Witty: i dont know why saint is nor do i care if he reads what i say, but he sounds like he plays call of cuty
Edgewriter: And we are going to lose so bad.


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