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Prediction: Burke will lead the Jazz in FG attempts.

Burke leading the team in FG a good thing? explain.

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • No

    Votes: 8 72.7%

  • Total voters
    11
In my opinion, if Burke continues to be shot heavy, he will be inefficient, like last night as a smaller pg with just average athletic ability, not really meant or built to be a lead scoring guard.
 
We don't need him taking the most shots on the team. We need someone that will get Favors more looks at the rim.
I just want him making the right decisions on the court. That may mean taking the most shots on the team. Forcing the ball into a 4th year player who's shown very little offensive ability is rarely the right decision.
 
I just want him making the right decisions on the court. That may mean taking the most shots on the team. Forcing the ball into a 4th year player who's shown very little offensive ability is rarely the right decision.

The right decision is shooting 5-15 with 3 assists? He's not going to be a dynamic scoring pg. for him, making the right decisions is taking good shots, and getting better shots for his teamates.

What would you rather have, 5-15 shooting 3 assists, or 5/9 shooting, and 7-10 assists?
 
I want to see how Burke plays and find out what his strengths and weaknesses are before determining what he should do more or less of.
 
The right decision is shooting 5-15 with 3 assists?
I never said that.

He's not going to be a dynamic scoring pg.
That's yet to be determined. You still seem to be holding out hope for Derrick Favors' development.

What would you rather have, 5-15 shooting 3 assists, or 5/9 shooting, and 7-10 assists?
That depends. Consider:

Scenario 1: Trey refuses to play defense, cherry-picking all game, and shoots 5-9 on wide open lay-ups when the opposing team misses despite playing 5-on-4. In the halfcourt, Trey pounds the rock at the top of the key until there are 3 seconds left on the shot clock, and then passes the ball to the most open player. The team shoots incredibly poorly, but Trey shoots 5/9 and racks up 7-10 assists.

Scenario 2: Trey consistently makes the right pass in the halfcourt. Those passes either lead to an additional pass to a wide open shooter or a shooting foul. Trey ends up with only 3 assists. Trey also serves as the safety valve, and takes 15 shots with the shot clock winding down, after the halfcourt offense is unable to create good shots (or players are unwilling to take shots they should be taking), hitting 5 (a good number, all things considered). Trey also competes on defense.

Which would you rather have?
 
I never said that.

That's yet to be determined. You still seem to be holding out hope for Derrick Favors' development.

That depends. Consider:

Scenario 1: Trey refuses to play defense, cherry-picking all game, and shoots 5-9 on wide open lay-ups when the opposing team misses despite playing 5-on-4. In the halfcourt, Trey pounds the rock at the top of the key until there are 3 seconds left on the shot clock, and then passes the ball to the most open player. The team shoots incredibly poorly, but Trey shoots 5/9 and racks up 7-10 assists.

Scenario 2: Trey consistently makes the right pass in the halfcourt. Those passes either lead to an additional pass to a wide open shooter or a shooting foul. Trey ends up with only 3 assists. Trey also serves as the safety valve, and takes 15 shots with the shot clock winding down, after the halfcourt offense is unable to create good shots (or players are unwilling to take shots they should be taking), hitting 5 (a good number, all things considered). Trey also competes on defense.

Which would you rather have?

Now your just trolling.
 
Now your just trolling.
Nope.

What you fail to recognize is that the box score does a very poor job of capturing the nuances of each possession and the roles each player fills in those possessions. A player can't just "create" an assist independent of the other 9 players on the court. Making the right play sometimes means taking a low percentage shot (if, say, the expected value of that shot is greater than the expected value of any other available play). Making the right play sometimes means making passes that are unlikely to lead directly to assists. Yes, my example was extreme, but it was meant to illustrate that context not captured in box scores is important.
 
Nope.

What you fail to recognize is that the box score does a very poor job of capturing the nuances of each possession and the roles each player fills in those possessions. A player can't just "create" an assist independent of the other 9 players on the court. Making the right play sometimes means taking a low percentage shot (if, say, the expected value of that shot is greater than the expected value of any other available play). Making the right play sometimes means making passes that are unlikely to lead directly to assists. Yes, my example was extreme, but it was meant to illustrate that context not captured in box scores is important.

Don't have time now, but will respond later after 5pm. Enjoying this don't go away.
 
Burke is going to have to learn what his strengths are in the NBA and play to them. It will be interesting to see what he does through this season. I'm still predicting 10-12 pts, 4-5 assists around 35% shooting.
 
I'm fairly certain that Burke will be leading the team in shots taken. He's also going to not have that great of percentage (I'm thinking around 35% for both 2's and 3's). Rookie point guards don't usually score effectively to well, Chris Paul was just barely above 40% in his rookie year. Now what do you guys think of this? I don't really care, I'd like him to get his confidence and learn to make a little better shot selection. It probably won't help us win to much though (Good thing?). If he's going to lead this team he's going to have to take shots and make plays.

Chris Paul was getting 16.1 pts w/ 43% ond 12 fga and averaged 7.8 AST and 2.2 stls his rookie year. If Burke averages 8 AST, then I win't care too much what his shooting percentage is right now at his stage of his development. I know it's only been 3 games, but I don't like him playing off gaurd and only averaging 3 ast --that's unacceptable for our PGOTF.
 
Chris Paul was getting 16.1 pts w/ 43% ond 12 fga and averaged 7.8 AST and 2.2 stls his rookie year. If Burke averages 8 AST, then I win't care too much what his shooting percentage is right now at his stage of his development. I know it's only been 3 games, but I don't like him playing off gaurd and only averaging 3 ast --that's unacceptable for our PGOTF.

That annoys me as well, Hayward keeps getting the ball in his hands to finish off plays.
 
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