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PS4 vs. XBOX One

Which console will take the cake?

  • PS4

    Votes: 23 69.7%

  • XBOX One

    Votes: 10 30.3%
  • Total voters
    33
Tony said:
If that's what buying and selling would have been like, why were so many developers against Microsofts DRM policy? I'm not buying it. And just because that's the way it works on Steam doesn't mean that's how it would have worked on the XO.
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what developers were against the policy? everything i have seen said the new policies would ultimately benefit the developers while shafting the retailers... maybe you have read something i haven't, but the people who have mostly been against this were journalists and consumers

Tony said:
This was never a problem in the first place. No one was like, "Deurrr why can't I store this game and download it from the 'cloud'? Hurrrrr durrrrr deurrrrr"
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maybe it wasn't a problem, but it's certainly a better vision for the future. it may be a first-world problem, but its damn convenient to have games stored on the console. i want a disc-less future, so does most people, hence the rise of the itunes store, netflix, etc.


Tony said:
Ya, even though Microsoft came out and said "Share between family" so many times to the point where you'd probably be smart to assume that sharing would be limited to your family.
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you seriously think that, despite the impossibility of moderating it? time to bring back this....

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Tony said:
This is complete ********. In order to have been able to play a game you would have had to install the game onto your console and tie it to your account WHILE you had the game inside the console.
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can be done entirely digitally.


Tony said:
The reason they'd have you go online is to update the games you have installed and put that into their database, update ads, and to take use of the "cloud". For the most part that article is a load of crap, most of which he made up. If even half of the was true, why didn't Microsoft say any of it at either of their conferences?
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that was the point of the article. microsoft's pr ****ed up and caved due to public outcry, eliminating some of the most forward-facing concepts on the XO. go read about the xbox one engineer who just wrote that blog about how disappointed he was. he makes a lot of insightful points about how the pr team screwed up their great vision.

i donno what the deal is with your posts man. you just wanna bash microsoft and the xbox one. normally you make some decent points.... this post was simply vitriolic.
 
scootsy said:
what developers were against the policy? everything i have seen said the new policies would ultimately benefit the developers while shafting the retailers... maybe you have read something i haven't, but the people who have mostly been against this were journalists and consumers
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Yes and I would argue they're the most important in the equation. Without them, who will pay the bills?
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Yes and I would argue they're the most important in the equation. Without them, who will pay the bills?
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Calling ******** KKK. Link? The whole policy was to BENEFIT developers, to help them 'pay the bills' because they were making no money from games being resold. Still aren't.
 
scootsy said:
Calling ******** KKK. Link? The whole policy was to BENEFIT developers, to help them 'pay the bills' because they were making no money from games being resold. Still aren't.
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... so I guess PS4 developers can't make money neither, which is why they haven't charged for used games. Go figure.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
please explain why microsoft feels their "developers" need to be compensated for used games, while PS4 developers do not need it.
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Ps3 already does with online games where you have to buy licenses to play games online... You clown.

Regardless, what you are actually saying is the platforms, Sony currently, and Microsoft potentially, trying to HELP developers!

So saying they aren't doing it isn't helping developers at all, so back to your original point, there is NO REASON Developers would be upset like this, unless games depend on people trying used copies of game to interest potential buyers for new releases. You are displaying incredible ineptitude though and its infuriating to talk to you because you never answer any questions.
 
scootsy said:
Ps3 already does with online games where you have to buy licenses to play games online... You clown.

Regardless, what you are actually saying is the platforms, Sony currently, and Microsoft potentially, trying to HELP developers!

So saying they aren't doing it isn't helping developers at all, so back to your original point, there is NO REASON Developers would be upset like this, unless games depend on people trying used copies of game to interest potential buyers for new releases. You are displaying incredible ineptitude though and its infuriating to talk to you because you never answer any questions.
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At least I don't do name calling......
 
UGLI baby said:
Props on that bro. Always respected you for that.

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No problem bro.. I always try to separate the "discussion" from the "person". I try hard to not get personal.. nobody benefits from it.


Haters gonna hate. All you can do is take in on the chin.
 
scootsy said:
what developers were against the policy? everything i have seen said the new policies would ultimately benefit the developers while shafting the retailers... maybe you have read something i haven't, but the people who have mostly been against this were journalists and consumers
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Well CD Projekt Red for one. They said they were totally against DRM but because they want everyone to be able to play The Witcher 3, they can't not release it on the Xbox One.

We couldn't simply not release The Witcher 3 on Xbox One. We want to make sure that every single player will have access to our game and thus decided to deliver for PC, PS4 and Xbox One.

There are people who don't mind the DRM protection and will pick Xbox One as their platform of choice. We can't punish them. Again, we always stress the fact that we're against DRM, but in the market system it's the clients who make the final decision. As developers, we need to create best content we can and make it available for as many players as possible.
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scootsy said:
can be done entirely digitally.
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Hmmm, I'm almost positive you can't put a game inside a disc-tray digitally.
 
Tony said:
Well CD Projekt Red for one. They said they were totally against DRM but because they want everyone to be able to play The Witcher 3, they can't not release it on the Xbox One.




Hmmm, I'm almost positive you can't put a game inside a disc-tray digitally.
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figured there were some developers, but i think its a minority of developers who are against it. and what i meant is that you wouldn't need a disc at all. i currently buy games from the xbox store and the game is on my console entirely. i never take halo 4 out of the tray, but i am constantly playing mlb 2k12, fable 3, halo and cod:bo2
 
scootsy said:
figured there were some developers, but i think its a minority of developers who are against it. and what i meant is that you wouldn't need a disc at all. i currently buy games from the xbox store and the game is on my console entirely. i never take halo 4 out of the tray, but i am constantly playing mlb 2k12, fable 3, halo and cod:bo2
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Well really, I don't see why Microsoft or Sony wouldn't be able to implement digital sharing for those people who buy games digitally.
 
Tony said:
Well really, I don't see why Microsoft or Sony wouldn't be able to do digital sharing for those people who buy games digitally.
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well from what i understood, that was the whole point. a game is tied to your account, and so to have access to a game, a person simply needs to activate that account on their console.
 
scootsy said:
well from what i understood, that was the whole point. a game is tied to your account, and so to have access to a game, a person simply needs to activate that account on their console.
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Ya but digitally where a game is tied to your account anyway? They could easily make them sharable. Just lend a game to your friend for x amount of minutes or x amount of days and have it deactivated on your account until that time you set is up. This wouldn't be able to work with physical games of course but with the ones you buy digitally. You know?

edit: I understand where Microsoft was trying to go but one of the main selling points of a console is being able to do whatever you want with the physical copies of games that you bought. If they try to move in the direction of Steam, why not just buy a PC?
 
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