Question for Lawyer people and other smart human beings

[UGLI baby]

I want to make a shirt that sort of makes fun of a certain trademarked logo.

Something along the lines of this:

So my question is, how do people make t-shirts like this without being sued?

I wouldnt be selling these tshirts on a mass scale or anything, I would just want to make them for me and some friends and maybe sell a few to people who want them at Utes football games.

Anybody have any expertise in this area?

 

[bigb]

My guess is that if you keep it small-time (just a few), nothing will come from it. At worst, they'll send you a "cease and desist", at which point in time, you cease and desist.

 

[Surely]

Just go ahead and print them, then when they come after you, just claim that you are part Chinese. On a side note, I have a digital t-shirt printer and I do a lot of family reunions and such. This year one family wanted to "borrow" the London Olympic logo and add their own lettering. If the IOC has nothing better to do then come track down somebody who borrowed their logo in southern Idaho then the olympics are a lot better off than Mitt thought.

 

[UGLI baby]

^^thanks for the responses.

If I was making shirts that made fun of Mcdonalds or something I'd figure that they wouldnt find out or care about it and wouldnt give much thought to it.

The only reason I asked is the shirt I want to do makes fun of byu and I want to wear them and sell some at the Utah vs byu game this year. I could see some dork trying to sue me or make a big deal about it.

The shirt would be the regular byu logo with the cougar, but with some changes to it. How do companies get away with selling obvious knockoffs of other companies logos? I've seen shirts like that at walmart.

My guess is that maybe its not illegal to change someones logo if you arent trying to trick people into buying something because they think it actually is a product from that company. Anyone know if this is right?

@Surely If I decided to do this and wanted to make 50 shirts what would you guess it would cost per shirt? (would be willing to spend more to make them nice)

 

[Deleted member 848]

Tink is gonna cream with excitement when he sees this thread. Personally, I just hope I don't have to sift through an explanation from the (not-so) intelligent likes of OhGatinsHo, NBAnoob or SaltyBalls (don't even get me started on PeeGayPhlegm)

 

[GVC]

Some wild dogs have made a kill.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Just take the beating BYU will be handing out that day and go home and sulk. Being a Ute fan on that day will be embarrassment enough. No need to double down on the embarrassment by wearing a crappy custom made T to the game.

 

[UGLI baby]

Just take the beating BYU will be handing out that day and go home and sulk. Being a Ute fan on that day will be embarrassment enough. No need to double down on the embarrassment by wearing a crappy custom made T to the game.

You jelly? Im not trying to exclude you from the fun. I can send you any size shirt from S-XXXL.

Just PM me your address and I'll hit you up with my paypal info. Looks like its gonna come to $54.10 with taxes and shipping.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

You jelly? Im not trying to exclude you from the fun. I can send you any size shirt from S-XXXL.

Just PM me your address and I'll hit you up with my paypal info. Looks like its gonna come to $54.10 with taxes and shipping.

Don't do it Duck. It's a scam, if you give him your personal info he will steal your identity and ruin your credit. I've seen tons of Utah fans do this to fine law abiding citizens.

 

[Dr. Jones]

That's why I only accept Western Union. More official that way. What do you say, Duck, wire me $54?

 

[Gameface]

That's why I only accept Western Union. More official that way. What do you say, Duck, wire me $54?

It's actually 54.10. I know it seems like the 10 doesn't even matter, like it's almost nothing compared to the 54, but don't short-change the BYU fans. Give them credit for trying as hard as they could, even though they failed miserably.

 

[Hartsock]

^^thanks for the responses.

If I was making shirts that made fun of Mcdonalds or something I'd figure that they wouldnt find out or care about it and wouldnt give much thought to it.

The only reason I asked is the shirt I want to do makes fun of byu and I want to wear them and sell some at the Utah vs byu game this year. I could see some dork trying to sue me or make a big deal about it.

The shirt would be the regular byu logo with the cougar, but with some changes to it. How do companies get away with selling obvious knockoffs of other companies logos? I've seen shirts like that at walmart.

My guess is that maybe its not illegal to change someones logo if you arent trying to trick people into buying something because they think it actually is a product from that company. Anyone know if this is right?

@Surely If I decided to do this and wanted to make 50 shirts what would you guess it would cost per shirt? (would be willing to spend more to make them nice)

If you do this I will sue you for being a dick!

 

[Duck Rodgers]

It's actually 54.10. I know it seems like the 10 doesn't even matter, like it's almost nothing compared to the 54, but don't short-change the BYU fans. Give them credit for trying as hard as they could, even though they failed miserably.

Don't give him that much credit, that was surely not a score reference built into the price. That's the standard price, not a Duck Rodgers/BYU fan special or anything. I think he was calculating shirt price + small profit margin + the amount that ticket prices have risen since Utah hooked onto the Pac 12 money train. Nothing wrong with Utah fans getting creative to be able to afford tickets. The economy is rough, man. He's got to get season tickets out of a 10 print run.

 

[Hartsock]

Don't give him that much credit, that was surely not a score reference built into the price. That's the standard price, not a Duck Rodgers/BYU fan special or anything. I think he was calculating shirt price + small profit margin + the amount that ticket prices have risen since Utah hooked onto the Pac 12 money train. Nothing wrong with Utah fans getting creative to be able to afford tickets. The economy is rough, man. He's got to get season tickets out of a 10 print run.

The gas station attendant business is rough these days?

 

[UGLI baby]

The gas station attendant business is rough these days?

You still use gasoline? I met a guy at stadium of fire wearing a "quest for perfection" t-shirt that turned me on to a company that will soon make gasoline obsolete.

Basically the company makes a powder that you mix with water and pour into your gas tank. It gives you 400 MPG with just one Tsp of powder.

He had a sign on the back of his 94' Aerostar mini van that said he is making $9,450/month working 5 hrs a week from home by selling this stuff. All I need to do to get to his level is sign up 17 people and have those 17 people sign up 17 people and so on for 17 levels beneath me.

So far I've signed up Billy Enforcy from down the street, and if you want to sign up that will make you #2. I'm offering free "Rise Up" t shirts to the first 10 people who get in my down line. Lemme know.

 

[Dr. Jones]

You still use gasoline? I met a guy at stadium of fire wearing a "quest for perfection" t-shirt that turned me on to a company that will soon make gasoline obsolete.

Basically the company makes a powder that you mix with water and pour into your gas tank. It gives you 400 MPG with just one Tsp of powder.

He had a sign on the back of his 94' Aerostar mini van that said he is making $9,450/month working 5 hrs a week from home by selling this stuff. All I need to do to get to his level is sign up 17 people and have those 17 people sign up 17 people and so on for 17 levels beneath me.

So far I've signed up Billy Enforcy from down the street, and if you want to sign up that will make you #2. I'm offering free "Rise Up" t shirts to the first 10 people who get in my down line. Lemme know.

This isn't just one of those multi-level marketing schemes is it?

 

[UGLI baby]

This isn't just one of those multi-level marketing schemes is it?

No. This is network marketing.

btw, feel free to sign up. No College degree required, and our company offers child care services for large families once you hit double platinum super gold star level.

 

[Hartsock]

You still use gasoline? I met a guy at stadium of fire wearing a "quest for perfection" t-shirt that turned me on to a company that will soon make gasoline obsolete.

Basically the company makes a powder that you mix with water and pour into your gas tank. It gives you 400 MPG with just one Tsp of powder.

He had a sign on the back of his 94' Aerostar mini van that said he is making $9,450/month working 5 hrs a week from home by selling this stuff. All I need to do to get to his level is sign up 17 people and have those 17 people sign up 17 people and so on for 17 levels beneath me.

So far I've signed up Billy Enforcy from down the street, and if you want to sign up that will make you #2. I'm offering free "Rise Up" t shirts to the first 10 people who get in my down line. Lemme know.

You are one Uteard I would love to have a beer with

 

[Dr. Jones]

No. This is network marketing.

btw, feel free to sign up. No College degree required, and our company offers child care services for large families once you hit double platinum super gold star level.

Is a background check req'd?
If there is an initial buy-in of this powdered gasoline, does the company offer financing .. with VERY little down .. and is bad credit okay? (also, what is the late charge if I make my monthly payment past the due date?)

Thanks, I'm starting to get really excited!!! I may call my mom to be my first person beneath me.

 

[franklin]

He had a sign on the back of his 94' Aerostar mini van that said he is making $9,450/month working 5 hrs a week from home by selling this stuff. All I need to do to get to his level is sign up 17 people and have those 17 people sign up 17 people and so on for 17 levels beneath me.

Aerostar van advertising? Psshaw. I use high tech, top of the line, hand-written signs strategerly placed at on and off ramps which read "Millionaire with a sharpie and cardboard seeks apprentice". I'd be a gazillionaire if it weren't for all the competition from pan handlers squatting on my spots.

Thanks, I'm starting to get really excited!!! I may call my mom to be my first person beneath me (again).

fixed.