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Bulletproof said:
Oh and I lost my seniority by keep my years for vacation purposes, so I stay on the second tier for vacation hours.
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Wasn’t the other job a significant bump in pay?

Why not stay on there and just bank (literally) the extra income should the company fold? I mean, some of the perks you had mentioned sounded good.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Wasn’t the other job a significant bump in pay?

Why not stay on there and just bank (literally) the extra income should the company fold? I mean, some of the perks you had mentioned sounded good.
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No it was a pretty significant drop in pay. At the rate I was at when I left, not considering no bonus at the new place and that I was so bored out of my mind 90% of the time so there was no way I was going to work overtime, it was 8k less annual base pay, but easily 20k less all things considered. I figured the company would grow and my role would change and I'd end up ahead, but that did not seem to be realistic. But the biggest draw financially was 2500 shares of stock that when I joined was worth $5.44, but that they were sure was going to be worth several hundred if not almost 1k per share when their big project took off. I give them no chance at anything like that, at all. If I thought it was realistically possible that the stock would go where they continue to assure their employees it's gonna go I would have stuck it out.
 
Bulletproof said:
It isn't even a public stock at this point. They were options, 25% matured per year.
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Yeah the 25% is industry standard but I forget how it works when you leave a company. Do you still own the share even though you left?

So like if it takes off in five years and soars to $500, that 1.25M is all yours?!
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Yeah the 25% is industry standard but I forget how it works when you leave a company. Do you still own the share even though you left?

So like if it takes off in five years and soars to $500, that 1.25M is all yours?!
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No, if they matured while I was there then they would have bought them back when I left. Their current made up valuation puts the shares at a little over $10/per. So had I stayed until September I could have exercised my option on the 600 some-odd that were mature and made out with something like $3k. I really can't stress enough how ****ing bored I was there, though. And I made more than that on bonuses every year at Dannon.
 
Bulletproof said:
No, if they matured while I was there then they would have bought them back when I left. Their current made up valuation puts the shares at a little over $10/per. So had I stayed until September I could have exercised my option on the 600 some-odd that were mature and made out with something like $3k. I really can't stress enough how ****ing bored I was there, though. And I made more than that on bonuses every year at Dannon.
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I know. I just want to follow this company to see if they explode.

I trust your judgment that they won’t but I also trusted you when you went there and we see how that turned out!

Samsung, Smamshung.
 
One Brow said:
Yes. seriously. Please, do explain it. For the record:

dou·ble stand·ard
/ˈdəbəl ˈstandərd/
noun
  1. a rule or principle which is unfairly applied in different ways to different people or groups.
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Since our other great shooter is also white, I tell you what...go on a board when another team plays GS and post about Klay Thompson, "do not leave that white boy open." Then post about Curry, "do not leave that black boy open.."

If you get the same response from both posts, then no double standard. I personally would find it highly objectionable if someone called me "boy." But if you dont, then more power to you, you're a good boy.
 
Jack Strop said:
If you get the same response from both posts, then no double standard.
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Again: a rule or principle which is unfairly applied in different ways to different people or groups.

Please, show how this principle is being unfairly applied. I would really like to see a good explanation for it.
 
One Brow said:
Again: a rule or principle which is unfairly applied in different ways to different people or groups.

Please, show how this principle is being unfairly applied. I would really like to see a good explanation for it.
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When you make the general statement "Don't leave the white boy open" you're reinforcing racial stereotypes. White men can't jump but they can shoot an open 3. Implied is that black people rely more heavily on their clearly superior athletic ability to drive and dunk and don't need to be able to shoot as well as the "white boy" who can't do those things... because race.
 
Bulletproof said:
When you make the general statement "Don't leave the white boy open" you're reinforcing racial stereotypes. White men can't jump but they can shoot an open 3. Implied is that black people rely more heavily on their clearly superior athletic ability to drive and dunk and don't need to be able to shoot as well as the "white boy" who can't do those things... because race.
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I agree with this completely. It is a false, stereotypical, and hurtful narrative. However, that was not the source of Jack Strop's complaint:
Jack Strop said:
Double standard here...I guess it's ok to say, "Do not leave the White Boy open." Just imagine if someone had said,"Do not leave the Black Boy open."
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So, I'm just asking why he thinks this principle is being unfairly applied, in that you can say this of a white player, but not a black player.
 
One Brow said:
I agree with this completely. It is a false, stereotypical, and hurtful narrative. However, that was not the source of Jack Strop's complaint:


So, I'm just asking why he thinks this principle is being unfairly applied, in that you can say this of a white player, but not a black player.
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What? You think there's some deep philosophy hiding somewhere in there? He's thinking "calling a white guy "boy" is okay, but not a black guy? Double standard!". There's nothing to it beyond that.
 
Alfalfa said:
What? You think there's some deep philosophy hiding somewhere in there? He's thinking "calling a white guy "boy" is okay, but not a black guy? Double standard!". There's nothing to it beyond that.
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I'm sure he feels he has a reason for calling it unfair.
 
And thats why I call it a double standard. No one reacts at all to referring to a whote player as "White Boy," but I dare someone to go to another board and use the term "Black Boy," "Asian Boy" or whichever other race a player is.

Oh, I forgot...only white boys can be racist.
 
Jack Strop said:
And thats why I call it a double standard. No one reacts at all to referring to a whote player as "White Boy," but I dare someone to go to another board and use the term "Black Boy," "Asian Boy" or whichever other race a player is.

Oh, I forgot...only white boys can be racist.
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I'm sorry if I was confusing. I was asking "why", not "what". That is, I was looking for some sort of reasoning behind it.

Could you please explain why this is unfair? Simply repeating the situation is not an explanation. Saying what you would want the situation to look like is not an explanation. A "why" would include some sort of explanation as to why it is unfair.
 
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