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RealGM: Jazz Prioritizing Extension For George Hill Over Derrick Favors

I'm quickly losing my enthusiasm for this team.

This sucks.
 
PG_AB said:
I was a knicks fan, I've seen 30 year old trade targets get big extensions and **** a whole team and salary cap royally many times over..

I wanted Tobias Harris and Harrison Barnes both of whom can play 4 in the past 2 offseasons, either would've provided futher insurance for this entire issue.


It's just a matter of perspective. Some people see things as incremental upgrades and other see them as errors compounding themselves over and over.. if the cost is Favors the asking price is way too high.
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I remembered Eddy Curry being one of the Knicks worst signing ever. He put on like 100 lbs during his time as a Knicks.
 
George Hill confirmed out tomorrow vs Rockets.
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Exum is getting alot of needed minutes as a result and hopefully making it obvious to Snyder he's ready to assume a bigger role.When Hill gets back, Hill and Exum could set the standard on perimeter defense in the NBA.
 
Qman said:
Because most people saw him as an undersized slashing SG who couldn't shoot. He just really improved his overall offensive game. For example DX has him 31st in their mock draft. And he still isn't a point guard. He is however a good player.
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I agree, but to chastise any team for not drafting him in the 2nd round is bizarre.
 
Some smart folks on this forum and both sides of the discussion have been hammered out pretty well. We could go on for days about which player is more valuable to the team, but it all comes down to opinions. They're both two of our best players in my mind though I would argue that Hill is the better leader. So it all boils down to the fact that Hill's deal needs to be hammered out now to retain him, which gives us more time to assess Favors injury proclivities.

Though we obviously have more options at point guard than we do at power forward at this juncture, I would argue that the point guard position is more important to a team's success. This is the quarterback position folks. And as unpopular as this is to say around here, Exum though a valuable two way player for us, has not proven to me that he's even close to being the team floor general and leader. The knowledge necessary to know a player's preferences and find them in rhythm, and the instincts and confidence to know when to do it yourself is subtle but ultimately the difference between winning and losing. In contrast, though Favors is an elite four in this league, his durability is a question mark and Lyles is further along than people give him credit. Also the uber-athletic Bolomboy only needs the minutes to bloom and show what he can do.
 
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As for a time machine reference, I told all of y'all in the summer that we should have traded Hayward and Favors for #1 to get Simmons.

I hate to say this, but there is a chance Hayward walks this summer and we give ridiculous money to an injury prone PF in 2018. The result? Still a borderline playoff team.

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We have to extend Hill over Favors. Hill has brought more excitement and fun to the Jazz than in the past 3+ years for me. I can't see Gordo even considering to stay without extending Hill before the seasons over.

Sad to say, but Burks and Favors are definitely made of glass. We'd be lucky to even see Burks in a jersey again.
 
I was up late last night, tossing and turning. I was worried about this thread, and about getting all of the right players signed.

But then something happened. I came to a phenomenal realization. And after that, I slept like rotting geriatric. Completely relaxed, care free, and probably disgusting looking. Just happy as a clam, and drooling on my pillow like a snotty, horrific toddler.

My realization? I remembered that my wife had cooked chicken parmesan earlier this week and that there was leftovers in the fridge. I hit that **** like a merchant marine hits the red light district of a port town. Plate, microwave, dirty fork straight out of the sink.

It may have been the greatest moment of my entire life.
 
I won't be surprised to see some trades going down this season/ths off-season, partially to clear cap room. And the 'Jazz player not available for trade' list is pretty small, IMO.
 
tleikheen said:
Exum is getting alot of needed minutes as a result and hopefully making it obvious to Snyder he's ready to assume a bigger role.When Hill gets back, Hill and Exum could set the standard on perimeter defense in the NBA.
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This is where I will be extremely critical of Quin if he ****s this up. Exum needs significant minutes to develop his offensive game. Between him and Hill, they need to take most of Mack's minutes and the backup sg minutes.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
I was up late last night, tossing and turning. I was worried about this thread, and about getting all of the right players signed.

But then something happened. I came to a phenomenal realization. And after that, I slept like rotting geriatric. Completely relaxed, care free, and probably disgusting looking. Just happy as a clam, and drooling on my pillow like a snotty, horrific toddler.

My realization? I remembered that my wife had cooked chicken parmesan earlier this week and that there was leftovers in the fridge. I hit that **** like a merchant marine hits the red light district of a port town. Plate, microwave, dirty fork straight out of the sink.

It may have been the greatest moment of my entire life.
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Thanks for bringing home what's important in life. I would flood you with reps for this epic slice of the life of an internet hero but alas I already repped you recently for I have no idea what.
 
I haven't read through this threat, but Hill expires this year, and Favors expires in 2 years. Isn't that enough reason for Hill to be prioritized over Favors?
 
PG_AB said:
The Jazz have a lower margin for error than many other teams with championship aspirations and should be graded as such..

If they didnt get some **** right they'd be out of jobs, the big question is 'how can things be done better?'..

They'll need to gain tremendous momentum to really break thru..

So until that happens any asset thats been developed here for years and walks without a return is a major blow to the cause. Anyone who says otherwise is an advocate for the status quo.
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Jazz F.O. would rather let years of developed talent walk and receive nothing in return, than break the news and say, "you've been traded".
Favors is a great player who the Jazz raised and groomed into the player he is today. It may be time to let go of the big man, but not without a return. If we are to trade, we need to do it now. Not wait until the end and lose him for nothing like we often do.

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