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Reasons you left the LDS church.

That is the most colorful post without a pic I have ever seen. +12 when I spread some rep around.

No other way to do it without going too One Brow for my taste, and I can't believe you are at 12 already. You just hit 11 a few days ago it seems.
 
Funny, I was going to neg rep Spazz for posting such an ugly response...
It was so long I got sick of working on it to make it look better. Sometimes you just have to let them go... and hope they never come back.
That's one post I'm glad to be done with, but I guess I'm too OCD to let it go.
 
You're probably right.

That being said, there is no way that you can construe anything he's posting as "resonable".

You're riled up because I pointed out your stupidity a week ago. Get over it. You are a stupid person. You've never said an original or even a mildly interesting thing in your long history on this forum. However, I know that you have no life and that you'll keep harassing me (you're proud of that right? Isn't that why you're supposed to be cute or whatever?). I can't match your anger, or your insurance-salesman level of intellect, and I don't seem to be capable of just ignoring your insults. I also realize you're part of the inner circle, and that your behavior will be allowed to continue. So I'm left with one choice. You win.
 
Can one of you in the know tell me if I am in the inner circle please?
I didn't even think I was in any sort of circle, but if so, the inner circle sounds better.
TIA
 
Can one of you in the know tell me if I am in the inner circle please?
I didn't even think I was in any sort of circle, but if so, the inner circle sounds better.
TIA

That kind of depends on what the circle is made of, doesn't it?
 
As far as the spiritless body suggestion, I didn't say it was true or not, I've simply never heard of it. I believe it is illogical, not plausible and simply weird.

You misunderstood what I said. I'm saying that there's a difference between humans and animals... namely that humans are the spirit children of God, not that animals do not have spirits. And at some point in time humans became, well, human, instead of animals.

I never said anything about spiritless bodies. That was your phrase.

To answer why I proposed the questions in my earlier post to CONAN, was because he was promoting his credentials of being a scientist...

Name mixup there.
 
You're riled up because I pointed out your stupidity a week ago. Get over it. You are a stupid person. You've never said an original or even a mildly interesting thing in your long history on this forum. However, I know that you have no life and that you'll keep harassing me (you're proud of that right? Isn't that why you're supposed to be cute or whatever?). I can't match your anger, or your insurance-salesman level of intellect, and I don't seem to be capable of just ignoring your insults. I also realize you're part of the inner circle, and that your behavior will be allowed to continue. So I'm left with one choice. You win.



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And to be totally fair, I AM the one who came up with, "Chris Paul drinks pee.", so you're wrong about the whole, "You've never said an original thing in your long history on this forum."

Other than that, you're spot on.
 
Can one of you in the know tell me if I am in the inner circle please?
I didn't even think I was in any sort of circle, but if so, the inner circle sounds better.
TIA

I'm no expert, but I believe the only real qualification to get into "The Inner Circle" is pretty easy: Don't be a dumbass.

There is a reason that people like Siromar bitch and complain about TIC, and it's because they can't seem to get over that horrible requirement. It's cool though, green is a great color on him.

But back on topic, I think Mormons and Muslims rule, and I love how GVC finally admitted he was a douche earlier and apologized. It only took 20 or so pages, but in the end, he did the right thing. This is why I dream about him on occasion.
 
Wow, this thread had potential but somewhere after my post on pg.16(which no one commented on) it became ridiculous. Very few posts that made any sense. The only interesting stuff was about if LDS believes in evolution and the racism stuff. Denying evolution would be a total deal breaker to argue with anyone who has basic education and defends this point of view. Also a christian sect that dislikes black people would be quite hilarious, given that their prophet was more black than white. Different views on racism would only show that the religion is basing its morals on the current moralty of the community and not on a god.

You are tangled up in meaningless discussions, but i don't know why. Are you afraid to really think about these things?

To make it simple, here are two questions i believe every religious man should be able to answer perfectly:

1) What does (your) religion offer, that can't be achieved whithout it?
2) Do you want your children to have the same religion as you do? If so, why?

Gotta say I have enjoyed this thread.

I have one question though. Is there any point to argueing over religion? It's not like your going to change someones mind. Seeing people argue over this is absolutely hilarious to me.

I think it's a topic that is not talked about enough. Billions of people structure their lives around it and pass it on to the next generations. It genuinely saddens me that people don't value their lives because they believe in an after life or think they have to live with made up restrictions.
 
It genuinely saddens me that people don't value their lives because they believe in an after life or think they have to live with made up restrictions.

Speak for yourself, pal. I value my life and my family BECAUSE I believe in an afterlife, and as far as "made up restrictions", I don't feel like I'm "restricted" at all by my faith and beliefs. My church preaches agency, choice, and free will to do as I please. My church gives guidelines, and if I want, I can follow those guidelines. If I choose not to, I don't all of a sudden lose my membership. Granted, there are laws (common) that can get my membership revoked, and one or two serious sins -- but other than that, I'm pretty much free to live my life as I see fit.

I'm happy for you that you don't have a higher power to answer to; I sometimes wish I had that luxury.
 
I'm happy for you that you don't have a higher power to answer to; I sometimes wish I had that luxury.

I answer to the same higer power you do: my sense of right and wrong. I just don't attribute to it some presence outside of myself. Throughout history, God has told people the right things to do, whih have always corresponded to what those people in that time felt was the right thing to do.
 
I answer to the same higer power you do: my sense of right and wrong. I just don't attribute to it some presence outside of myself. Throughout history, God has told people the right things to do, whih have always corresponded to what those people in that time felt was the right thing to do.

I respectfully disagree. While people do have to answer their own "sense of right and wrong", that sense does tend to change throughout time for individuals, and societies. While we do have our own conscience, we don't always have to answer to it. Sometimes people change their own idea of right and wrong to feel better about their actions. I do believe strongly that God exists, and that we will be held accountable at some point to Him.

The trick is to get our sense of right and wrong to be as close to God's sense of right and wrong as possible.

This just happens to be where all/most of the disagreements come about in the world in regards to religion, or our relationship with God without any sort of organization. You have to know God before you can align yourself with Him. Often times, we as humans, try to align God with us instead of the other way around.

Each religion has a different idea of who God is, what His characteristics are, and what He wants from us. Some people get sick of the arguments over these different ideas and come to their own conclusions, and others just denounce the idea of a God and say we have to answer to ourselves only.

We can make good decisions, and be good people with good morals no matter our belief in God or choice of religion.

You all should know my personal decision in this by now. I believe there are many paths to the gate of God, but I believe that once we are truly at the gate of God, there is only one path up to his doorstep, which is His path. The trick is to know are we truly at his gate, or at some other gate the adversary has placed somewhere to trick us. I hope we can all feel comfortable in the choice we make, and make every effort to be the good ground when the seed is planted that is described by parable in the New Testament.
 
This is exactly why religion leads to wars and violence. Why doesn't everyone just be a good person and assume that if there is a god/gods that he'd probably care about that more than which obscure rules you followed.
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
― Marcus Aurelius
 
This is exactly why religion leads to wars and violence. Why doesn't everyone just be a good person and assume that if there is a god/gods that he'd probably care about that more than which obscure rules you followed.

I don't know what you mean by "this".

I also don't have a problem with your post, what other people believe should not be a problem.
It should be fine to discuss any differences, and to disagree, but it really should never get heated into an argument, or any sort of physical harm.
People will disagree, that's just how life is, now if we can realize we can disagree without being hurtful that would be nice.
 
I answer to the same higer power you do: my sense of right and wrong. I just don't attribute to it some presence outside of myself. Throughout history, God has told people the right things to do, whih have always corresponded to what those people in that time felt was the right thing to do.

Certainly explains the huge popularity of Christans among the Jews and Romans in the time right around BC, since what God was telling them to do was what the people already felt was right. In fact they were the guests of honor at many Roman festivities for about 3 centuries or so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire
 
Let's all be honest here. We all knew where this was headed, in some way or another, eventually.

Well, we're there. Congratulations or something.

This should've been closed about 16 pages ago.
 
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