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memo is money said:
I cannot blame Fesenko. He has done way better job boxing out and putting effort on defense and rebounding than others you named.
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Really? Because Fes is grabbing a whole 2.1 rebounds in 10.0 minutes a night. If he is boxing out and showing effort, it's not showing up in his rebounding numbers.
 
cowhide said:
I do agree that the effort hasn't always been there. However another isssue is the Jazz shooting percentage is down. In some games it has been awful so a way to decrease the opponent's rebound numbers is make more shots. AJ and AK have been the most disappointing along with Fess.
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I have not been as concerned about our offensive rebounding as I have our defensive rebounding. The nets game was a good example. Getting offensive boards is, in my opinion, icing on the cake, while defensive rebounding is the cake. As our FG% goes up the opportunity for offensive board goes down, but as our defense improves the absolute need for defensive rebounding increases. Gotta crash the boards on both ends, but it is far worse to watch them rebound their own misses, often in prime position to score. We gotta get after those.
 
A high school coach will tell you to always put your body on somebody when a shot is up. It's mind-boggling why players on a team emphasizing so much on efforts are not boxing out. I would bench Big Al or anyone in no time if he just stands there and watch the shot up in the air instead of boxing out. If it costs us a win because we couldn't score on the other end, so be it. This is just way too important to get into early habits or else we will see the Lakers dominating us with their sizes once again.
 
i'd say rebounding requires a honed and conscious sense of timing and position, rather than "heart" or "scrap"

i'd also say teaching those concepts to your team is far more useful than screaming about bootstraps
 
Get Down said:
i'd say rebounding requires a honed and conscious sense of timing and position, rather than "heart" or "scrap"
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Don't even require that, that I can tell. It just requires the ability to catch a ball. Stand around and, sooner or later, one will come right to ya. All ya gotta be able to do is catch.

Now, if ya wanna talk about gittin yoself a big buncha rebounds, that's sumthin else.

If you're at practice, reboundin for a guy who is shootin free throws, er sumthin, then it don't take no scrap or heart, true dat. But if you in the paint with guys pushin and shovin ya, and doin they best to knock you outta da play and git da rebound for they own damn self, it takes more than just "timin" to git the rebound.
 
By Jody Genessy, Deseret News

SALT LAKE CITY

The Utah Jazz's season-long rebounding struggles can be blamed on one thing, if you ask Jerry Sloan. And poor technique isn't the weak link What's needed to improve on the boards, the Jazz coach insists, is simpler than that.

"That's all rebounding is: effort," Sloan said. "The ball's not going to come to you unless you go to it," the Hall of Fame coach said. "You can talk about it all you want, but the guys that rebound, they go after the ball. If you don't go after it, it's hard to rebound," Sloan added, "and I blame that on effort."

https://www.deseretnews.com/article...ok-Jerry-Sloan-says-Jazz-need-to-rebound.html

Well, there ya have it, then, eh?

Sloan, by the way, is in the top 10, ALL TIME, in the steals per game category, just behind John Stockton and Iverson (who are tied for 8th all time) and ahead of such thieves as Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, and Walt Fraizer, none of whom are even in the top 20. How is that? Sloan was big and slow. He wanted the ball, that's how. He would dive head first for a ball while a guy was dribblin and deflect it in mid-bounce if he seen a chance to do that. He would hound a guy to death, until he got flustered, then steal it. Whatever it took. He got steals because (1) he WANTED the ball, and (2) he put a great deal of effort into gittin it.

When asked who the best defender he played against was, Jerry West (himself 3rd all time in steals per game, ahead of Jordan) said, without hesitation: "Jerry Sloan."

https://www.nba.com/statistics/default_all_time_leaders/AllTimeLeadersSPGQuery.html?topic=4&stat=12
 
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Hopper said:
By Jody Genessy, Deseret News

SALT LAKE CITY

The Utah Jazz's season-long rebounding struggles can be blamed on one thing, if you ask Jerry Sloan. And poor technique isn't the weak link What's needed to improve on the boards, the Jazz coach insists, is simpler than that.

"That's all rebounding is: effort," Sloan said. "The ball's not going to come to you unless you go to it," the Hall of Fame coach said. "You can talk about it all you want, but the guys that rebound, they go after the ball. If you don't go after it, it's hard to rebound," Sloan added, "and I blame that on effort."

https://www.deseretnews.com/article...ok-Jerry-Sloan-says-Jazz-need-to-rebound.html

Well, there ya have it, then, eh?
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Good find. I am glad you posted this, in your previous post all I understood was "all it takes is the ability to catch the ball", the rest was TF/DR (too fake/didn't read).

Sloan knows. They need to increase their focus, and go get the ball. It is not rocket surgery that is for sure.
 
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