Reflecting on this season: what we learned....

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If we go back and look at the box scores of all the games the Jazz lost during the regular season, you'll see that the Jazz got out-played in the stat sheet by the other team's PGs virtually every time. A shoot-first PG who averages 11 ppg on 45% shooting isn't a good thing. The fact that he was splitting time with Watson and Tinsley should tell us what the front office thinks of Harris at $10 million/year.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We learned that Corbin is a rookie coach, and needs time to become less stupid, which includes moving away from Sloans substitution beliefs and patterns. Favors is the only current player on the squad that is untouchable, although I am very high on Hayward, Burks, and Kanter as well. Millsap has a good heart, but is eternally undersized and needs to be a 6th man and it is critical for him to establish a consistent 3point shot to not only to relieve the pressure Favors will see, but to improve his own own scoring by using the only advantage he possesses; speed. Jefferson has to go, despite being the only player that consistently will score regardless of what defense is thrown at him. While being a decent shot blocker, he brings nothing else to the table except a shot buffet for the other team, especially on the pnr. Also, saying you can't win and kissing the behind of the other team, regardless how obvious that is to everyone, is inexcusable, incomprehensible, and unacceptable. How would you go to battle with someone that outwardly expresses this? Hayward, while being inconsistent, both inside and out, is still adapting to a changing body (has grown in size and height), although I am shocked at his playoff performance offensively. He is the Jazz's best individual defender, and will be a starter (borderline All-star) for 10 years. Burks, despite a donut in game 4, has the most upside on the team, and will start next year, and be the unquestioned team leader in 2014. Why? Because he believes it. Needs to gain a bit of weight, which he will. He will be an all-star perenially starting in 2014. Carrolle must be resigned because he plays with passion and intensity, and brings a bit of talent for relatively cheap. Kanter is massive, and for someone who has played as much as your average high schooler, is awesome. Learning to not bring the ball down is imperative for him moving forward. Otherwise, everything else will come as he plays and practices with the team. Harris is good, not great, and misses wat too many possible passes that could lead to scores, so he can go as far as I'm concerned. IMO, doesn't make people better, which is the #1 priority at the point. Howard (the Black Hole), and Bell (the a hole), and Miles (the stuck in a hole), need to be gone. These players either don't play a team game, or don't have the right attitude to improve a team, and their time is past. Ahearn will enjoy another stint in the D-league, and I hope Hayward can convince Evans to stick around, just because I like to watch him.

You need to learn about paragraphs.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Devin Harris. What should we do with that guy? It seems like he's another piece who is a decent asset, but doesn't really fit. If he helped his trade value in these last two playoff games, that's a plus.

git rid of al. and harris improves

 

[DutchJazzer]

If we go back and look at the box scores of all the games the Jazz lost during the regular season, you'll see that the Jazz got out-played in the stat sheet by the other team's PGs virtually every time. A shoot-first PG who averages 11 ppg on 45% shooting isn't a good thing. The fact that he was splitting time with Watson and Tinsley should tell us what the front office thinks of Harris at $10 million/year.

which is a symptom of BAD BAD BAD pick and roll defense.
do you wathc games or just blindly look at stats

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

which is a symptom of BAD BAD BAD pick and roll defense.
do you wathc games or just blindly look at stats

Of course I watched the games. Bad pick-and-roll defense has nothing to do with Harris' shooting percentage or the fact that on some nights Harris + Watson would combine for 5 pts and 5 assists

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

We learned that Corbin is a rookie coach, and needs time to become less stupid, which includes moving away from Sloans substitution beliefs and patterns. Favors is the only current player on the squad that is untouchable, although I am very high on Hayward, Burks, and Kanter as well. Millsap has a good heart, but is eternally undersized and needs to be a 6th man and it is critical for him to establish a consistent 3point shot to not only to relieve the pressure Favors will see, but to improve his own own scoring by using the only advantage he possesses; speed. Jefferson has to go, despite being the only player that consistently will score regardless of what defense is thrown at him. While being a decent shot blocker, he brings nothing else to the table except a shot buffet for the other team, especially on the pnr. Also, saying you can't win and kissing the behind of the other team, regardless how obvious that is to everyone, is inexcusable, incomprehensible, and unacceptable. How would you go to battle with someone that outwardly expresses this? Hayward, while being inconsistent, both inside and out, is still adapting to a changing body (has grown in size and height), although I am shocked at his playoff performance offensively. He is the Jazz's best individual defender, and will be a starter (borderline All-star) for 10 years. Burks, despite a donut in game 4, has the most upside on the team, and will start next year, and be the unquestioned team leader in 2014. Why? Because he believes it. Needs to gain a bit of weight, which he will. He will be an all-star perenially starting in 2014. Carrolle must be resigned because he plays with passion and intensity, and brings a bit of talent for relatively cheap. Kanter is massive, and for someone who has played as much as your average high schooler, is awesome. Learning to not bring the ball down is imperative for him moving forward. Otherwise, everything else will come as he plays and practices with the team. Harris is good, not great, and misses wat too many possible passes that could lead to scores, so he can go as far as I'm concerned. IMO, doesn't make people better, which is the #1 priority at the point. Howard (the Black Hole), and Bell (the a hole), and Miles (the stuck in a hole), need to be gone. These players either don't play a team game, or don't have the right attitude to improve a team, and their time is past. Ahearn will enjoy another stint in the D-league, and I hope Hayward can convince Evans to stick around, just because I like to watch him.

Good post. Just couldn't read it all on the first try.

 

[8]

You need to learn about paragraphs.

Who cares? It's far more insightful than anything you've ever posted.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Who cares? It's far more insightful than anything you've ever posted.

My eyes. I can't read something like that without getting a headache.

Not trying to be a grammar Nazi, because I hate those people, but c'mon man.

 

[gregbroncs]

The Jazz need a SF that can shoot.

Millsap or Jefferson need to go. I don't care which one but one of them need to go.

The Jazz need depth at PG,SG and SF.

Watson, CJ, Bell, and Howard should all be gone.

Carrolle should be re-signed on the cheap. Only for bench depth and a hustle energy guy.

Tinsley is okay as a 3rd PG, not as a backup.

And most of all the Jazz need at least 2 more players who can shoot a 3 pt shot. Preferably 1 PG and 1 SF.

 

[MilesDeep]

You need to learn about paragraphs.

Actually, I made it clear through English 301 at Utah State, but that was an impressive runon paragraph, and I am ashamed. I need to USE paragraphs. Thanks Cyrone.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Actually, I made it clear through English 301 at Utah State, but that was an impressive runon paragraph, and I am ashamed. I need to USE paragraphs. Thanks Cyrone.

Don't really care about making them proper paragraphs, just hard as hell on my eyes trying to read it all.

 

[northeast]

On the OP and Burks: Jazzfanz are always looking for players to gain weight.
Weight is a disadvantage for most basketball players.
Look at Duncun, Parker, and Ginobli. They are skinny veterans.

 

[Qman]

On the OP and Burks: Jazzfanz are always looking for players to gain weight.
Weight is a disadvantage for most basketball players.
Look at Duncun, Parker, and Ginobli. They are skinny veterans.

Being good is an advantage.

 

[northeast]

Being fast because you are not too heavy helps you be good.

 

[mrob]

We learned that Corbin is a rookie coach, and needs time to become less stupid, which includes moving away from Sloans substitution beliefs and patterns. Favors is the only current player on the squad that is untouchable, although I am very high on Hayward, Burks, and Kanter as well. Millsap has a good heart, but is eternally undersized and needs to be a 6th man and it is critical for him to establish a consistent 3point shot to not only to relieve the pressure Favors will see, but to improve his own own scoring by using the only advantage he possesses; speed. Jefferson has to go, despite being the only player that consistently will score regardless of what defense is thrown at him. While being a decent shot blocker, he brings nothing else to the table except a shot buffet for the other team, especially on the pnr. Also, saying you can't win and kissing the behind of the other team, regardless how obvious that is to everyone, is inexcusable, incomprehensible, and unacceptable. How would you go to battle with someone that outwardly expresses this? Hayward, while being inconsistent, both inside and out, is still adapting to a changing body (has grown in size and height), although I am shocked at his playoff performance offensively. He is the Jazz's best individual defender, and will be a starter (borderline All-star) for 10 years. Burks, despite a donut in game 4, has the most upside on the team, and will start next year, and be the unquestioned team leader in 2014. Why? Because he believes it. Needs to gain a bit of weight, which he will. He will be an all-star perenially starting in 2014. Carrolle must be resigned because he plays with passion and intensity, and brings a bit of talent for relatively cheap. Kanter is massive, and for someone who has played as much as your average high schooler, is awesome. Learning to not bring the ball down is imperative for him moving forward. Otherwise, everything else will come as he plays and practices with the team. Harris is good, not great, and misses wat too many possible passes that could lead to scores, so he can go as far as I'm concerned. IMO, doesn't make people better, which is the #1 priority at the point. Howard (the Black Hole), and Bell (the a hole), and Miles (the stuck in a hole), need to be gone. These players either don't play a team game, or don't have the right attitude to improve a team, and their time is past. Ahearn will enjoy another stint in the D-league, and I hope Hayward can convince Evans to stick around, just because I like to watch him.