Refs bail out the Lakers Again
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Chad Feldheimer
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Ok I believe the Lakers have the refs in their pocket more than anyone but the evidence from last night is really lacking
NO: 16 turnovers, shoot 39%, shoot 20-32 on FTs (10 more than the Lakers). Fouls 22(NO) 20(LAL). Lakers win by 9?
Really?
NO: 16 turnovers, shoot 39%, shoot 20-32 on FTs (10 more than the Lakers). Fouls 22(NO) 20(LAL). Lakers win by 9?
Really?
Evidence is watching the game and seeing how many stupid calls the refs make to help one team win. If one team gets away with more fouls without them being called, they will foul more. If one team can violate the rules more without getting called for it, they will do those things more, and gain an advantage, and it won't show up in stats necessarily.
Furthermore, if one team doesn't get the call when they are being fouled, and the other team does, this can cause exactly the discrepancy in turnovers that you refer to. What you think is evidence against my conclusion is actually evidence in favor of it.
Plus you have to watch to see things that don't show up in stats, like miscalled out of bounds plays, goaltending, etc. Which team gets to travel all over the place, and which team gets called for every possible violation of 3 seconds or whatever?
There was one stretch when the Lakers built up the lead, and the refs blew the whistle every 15 seconds it seemed. A third of those whistles were bogus calls against New Orleans. That's the difference in the game right there, not even counting all the calls in the rest of game.
Furthermore, if one team doesn't get the call when they are being fouled, and the other team does, this can cause exactly the discrepancy in turnovers that you refer to. What you think is evidence against my conclusion is actually evidence in favor of it.
Plus you have to watch to see things that don't show up in stats, like miscalled out of bounds plays, goaltending, etc. Which team gets to travel all over the place, and which team gets called for every possible violation of 3 seconds or whatever?
There was one stretch when the Lakers built up the lead, and the refs blew the whistle every 15 seconds it seemed. A third of those whistles were bogus calls against New Orleans. That's the difference in the game right there, not even counting all the calls in the rest of game.
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vslice02
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I watched the game in its entirety. Without question the Lakers got the majority of calls during the most critical junction of the game - the 3rd qtr. The handchecking on CP3 wasn't called, while it was on the Laker end (notable example Landry touch foul on Odom). 3-seconds on Bynum was being ignored while Steve Javie called 2 violations on NO.
Can't say it was surprising, since I predicted such an occurence in the Playoffs Thread as soon as I saw the crew.
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?5469-NBA-Playoffs-thread./page3
Chad Feldheimer
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Fair enough. I didn't watch a lot of the game.
Viny, do yourself a favor and stop being such a stupid tool.
That's a mighty tall order.
Not only that but while Bynum is good, those early fouls called on Okafor have been a bit much. You can't even take a sit down and sip of your beverage before he's headed to the bench. LOL. Okafor is the anchor for the Hornets defense and they have been very quick to get him out of there. But yeah, if the Hornets don't make dumb passes and make their free throws, they win that game. Can't leave points on the line like that and expect to win. And Carl Landry should've been sent to the line to shoot free throws on what should have been a clear path foul but I don't think they gave it to him.