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Sleights pushes two handed,they review it and NOTHING?

DeAndre shoulda got ejected after accosting a Jazz player from behind for the dead ball after arready having 1 technical?

That play in the first quarter where Blake gets a easy dunk cause a Jazz player gets bear hugged on a screan RIGHT IN FRONT IF THE SIDELINE REF?

Hayward clearly hacked by Redneck?


**** THE REFS AN THE NBA THEY ARE OUT TO GET US!
 
Oh yeah did I mention that call on Favors standing still for like 4 steps b4 Griffin plows in to him and they CALL IT ON FAVORS???
 
We shot 22 free throws, they shot 6 before we started fouling them to stop the clock. What a ****ing pathetic thread, I'd be ashamed if fans of other teams came here and saw how whiny people around here are.
 
It was bad calls both ways, but the egregious non-calls went against the Jazz and in the Clippers favor.

There was a moment where Hayward was shooting the 3, and got hit on the elbow. The guy with the ball, behind the 3 point-line, hit hard on the elbow while shooting - and no call???????

Also, the push into Rodney Hood's chest was a flagrant 1 by definition.

" A foul is considered flagrant when it involves excessive or violent contact that could injure the fouled player."
 
Joncolton said:
It was bad calls both ways, but the egregious non-calls went against the Jazz and in the Clippers favor.

There was a moment where Hayward was shooting the 3, and got hit on the elbow. The guy with the ball, behind the 3 point-line, hit hard on the elbow while shooting - and no call???????

Also, the push into Rodney Hood's chest was a flagrant 1 by definition.

" A foul is considered flagrant when it involves excessive or violent contact that could injure the fouled player."
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What about that push was excessive or violent? Holy **** have we become soft as a fanbase.
 
Speights tried to commit an intentional foul to stop the break, something the Jazz do constantly. It just happened to be while Hood committed a jump pass. Pushing a guy in the stomach isnt a flagrant foul, at least not with the force Speights used. Please stop crying about this, it's embarrassing.
 
And the 3 point foul we are outraged over. Isn't that something we constantly cry about being a foul when we play James Harden? That's a regular season foul, not something refs are giving you in the final minutes of a playoff game. Hayward will learn that. It sucks that we didnt get it in the moment, but Im glad the refs dont fall for the **** in the playoffs. They should call it a foul on the floor still and I hope the NBA will address that in the off-season to properly call the foul as a personal foul on the floor and not in a shooting motion.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Speights tried to commit an intentional foul to stop the break, something the Jazz do constantly. It just happened to be while Hood committed a jump pass. Pushing a guy in the stomach isnt a flagrant foul, at least not with the force Speights used. Please stop crying about this, it's embarrassing.
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Hood had both feet in the air, and was pushed in the chest. It wasn't anything close to play on the ball, he could have fouled Hood on either of his arms if he was trying to stop the pass. Watch Derrick Favors foul Chris Paul the same way, and see Faves get ejected for a Flagrant 2. I'm not saying it was a F2, but it was an F1, especially the way that the refs have been calling them this year.
 
Joncolton said:
Hood had both feet in the air, and was pushed in the chest. It wasn't anything close to play on the ball, he could have fouled Hood on either of his arms if he was trying to stop the pass. Watch Derrick Favors foul Chris Paul the same way, and see Faves get ejected for a Flagrant 2. I'm not saying it was a F2, but it was an F1, especially the way that the refs have been calling them this year.
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Again, what was excessive or violent about it? Was there anything violent about that push? He barely pushed him at all, it was just as he went to foul Hood jumped to make a pass. Really question how petty you are being when complaining about this. It's the playoffs.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Again, what was excessive or violent about it? Was there anything violent about that push? He barely pushed him at all, it was just as he went to foul Hood jumped to make a pass. Really question how petty you are being when complaining about this. It's the playoffs.
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It was excessive. There was no play on the ball. His feet were in the air, and he could easily have fallen awkwardly. If there is such a thing as a flagrant foul, I don't know how a 2 hand shove to the chest with a player in the air doesn't apply.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And the 3 point foul we are outraged over. Isn't that something we constantly cry about being a foul when we play James Harden? That's a regular season foul, not something refs are giving you in the final minutes of a playoff game. Hayward will learn that. It sucks that we didnt get it in the moment, but Im glad the refs dont fall for the **** in the playoffs. They should call it a foul on the floor still and I hope the NBA will address that in the off-season to properly call the foul as a personal foul on the floor and not in a shooting motion.
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Its the inconsistency of the refs that is the problem. If you call that for anyone (which I don't think you should) you have to call it for everyone. If the change the rule to get players to stop trying to draw fouls that way, I would be the first one cheering, but until that happens, players are going to try to take advantage, and you need to call it for everyone the same.
 
sgjazzfan said:
It was excessive. There was no play on the ball. His feet were in the air, and he could easily have fallen awkwardly. If there is such a thing as a flagrant foul, I don't know how a 2 hand shove to the chest with a player in the air doesn't apply.
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Not being a "play on the ball" isnt ground for a flagrant. If that were the case, then a lot more of these intentional fouls could be called flagrants.

The #1 thing that triggers flagrant calls in teh modern day are big windups (usually on block attempt) and contact to the head. Neither of those things happened to Hood. I agree it was borderline, but I appreciate it not being called a flagrant.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Its the inconsistency of the refs that is the problem. If you call that for anyone (which I don't think you should) you have to call it for everyone. If the change the rule to get players to stop trying to draw fouls that way, I would be the first one cheering, but until that happens, players are going to try to take advantage, and you need to call it for everyone the same.
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They havent been calling it in the playoffs. Like it or not there is clearly an unwritten rule of more contact being allowed in the playoffs. Maybe our fanbase has forgotten this universal concept since we havent been in the playoffs for so long.

Dont you remember Speights doing the same thing to Diaw and the refs swallowed the whistle?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
They havent been calling it in the playoffs. Like it or not there is clearly an unwritten rule of more contact being allowed in the playoffs. Maybe our fanbase has forgotten this universal concept since we havent been in the playoffs for so long.

Dont you remember Speights doing the same thing to Diaw and the refs swallowed the whistle?
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I saw it called a few times in the Houston/OKC game I watched iirc. I wish they would call that a non-shooting foul, and not reward the player for throwing up a shot they would never take if there hadn't been contact. It would eliminate the players from heaving the ball after the contact.
 
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