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Reggie Jackson's year

My2Cents said:
Maybe. No doubt he was one of the best two players in the trade. To argue whether he would have started is probably pointless though. The question for me is why he didn't end up in Utah in the first place. Either DL didn't ask about him, which would make him inept, he asked but OKC didn't want to include him (they got Singler so maybe they were looking for a wing), or he was available but DL didn't want him. My premise is that the Jazz were, and are, fully committed to Exum as a 30-35 MPG guy. If that's true, I can see why they might not want Jackson. What would be the point? We weren't playing for anything and were trying to develop our PG of the future. Why muddy the waters with another PG who wasn't in our long term plans. Exum needed all the minutes he could get. That's why I don't think we would have started Jackson. Numberica could be right though that they would have started Jackson in place of Ingles or Hood. But who knows?
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For me it's really the long view that's relevant, for the Jazz and Jackson. With Exum in place the Jazz would not want to commit big bucks to a backup PG, and Jackson would not want to sign on as Exum's backup. Maybe the Jazz underestimated him but he was averaging 28 MPG in OKC and putting up average numbers. Maybe we could have treated him as an asset, but you'd have to sign him first. If the Jazz didn't think they could re-sign him or that he would be a distraction then they were better off with the first round pick. OKC was in the exact same situation and punted. Should we have taken a flyer? Maybe, but I think Jackson would have walked for nothing and everyone would be complaining about it.
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If that's true then the Jazz don't deserve any fans. Your 2 cents on this is asinine.
 
NUMBERICA said:
But we're talking about before the trade deadline.

Hood had missed more than half of the games of the season to that point (he had played in 45% of them, to be precise), and Hood had scored more than 10 points exactly two times. He was shooting 31%. He had also missed 12 consecutive games leading into the deadline (he also missed three games after the deadline, FWIW).

Hood was not making a case as a legit starter at all to that point (and the case this season hasn't been a homerun, either). Jackson was, and they could've had a chance to see what he would've done on the Jazz before the Jazz had to make a decision longterm. I take that audition a million times over a platter of 2nd rounders.
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Hello?
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
Exum, and his 5.7 PER? The beer goggles you people have for this guy must be a mile thick. Exum has done nothing in the NBA, or elsewhere for that matter. Reggie is putting up a 21.7 PER this season. He is playing like a top-30 player in the NBA. Dante's numbers resemble a mediocre DLeaguer.
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Exum was a 19 year old rookie. Jackson is 25. When Jakcson was a 21 yr. old rookie he averaged 3 PPG on 32% shooting. And yes, I think Exum will be great. Guilty as charged.
 
As Exum is the one and only reward for tanking, you bet your *** I'm interested in giving him every opportunity (and incentive) to succeed within reason.
 
My2Cents said:
Exum was a 19 year old rookie. Jackson is 25. When Jakcson was a 21 yr. old rookie he averaged 3 PPG on 32% shooting. And yes, I think Exum will be great. Guilty as charged.
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Then why would Exum have started over Jackson, assuming the Jazz would have gotten him? It will be a miracle if Exum is ever as good as Jackson is now.
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
Exum, and his 5.7 PER? The beer goggles you people have for this guy must be a mile thick. Exum has done nothing in the NBA, or elsewhere for that matter. Reggie is putting up a 21.7 PER this season. He is playing like a top-30 player in the NBA. Dante's numbers resemble a mediocre DLeaguer.
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I wouldn't go as far to say Jackson is playing like a top 30 player. However the love for Exum here is completely unfounded. I don't know if I've seen a player that has done so little get some much love.
 
Bump.

With all the talk of trading assets for a 5th tier point guard on a short contract...

REggie Jackson is having a better year than Teague.
 
franklin said:
Bump.

With all the talk of trading assets for a 5th tier point guard on a short contract...

REggie Jackson is having a better year than Teague.
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Yeah it seemed at the time that we would trade Kanter and possibly Burke for Jackson. I wish I knew what happened with that trade.
 
♪alt13 said:
Yeah it seemed at the time that we would trade Kanter and possibly Burke for Jackson. I wish I knew what happened with that trade.
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I understand every reason DL didn't take in Reggie. I just want to bitch about the Jazz being treadmill dickwads at every step of this so-called rebuild.

This will fail, and it's going to cost them all of what little remains of the Stockton-Malone-Sloan equity. Most those fans have become disgusted with the franchise and left.
 
Still think Exum will improve dramatically on the offensive side next year. His shot looked better than expected as a rookie, but had no confidence. Limited sample size, but he played with confidence in SL and international play. Can daily see him coming back confident and as an improved shooter. When you tear an ACL, one thing you get to work on a lot is your shot. Hopefully he makes the most of it.
 
Even with the cap increasing, RJ's contract would have been unaffordable in a couple of years. Hayward and Gobert (and then Favors) are going to cripple the Jazz unless they all take less than their market value.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Even with the cap increasing, RJ's contract would have been unaffordable in a couple of years. Hayward and Gobert (and then Favors) are going to cripple the Jazz unless they all take less than their market value.
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Quite a few years, actually. A lot can happen in those few years (I'm talking about trades, specifically), all good things if RJ performed the way he is now. Which I see no reason why he wouldn't be.

The Jazz found a way to let a very good (or at least valuable) restricted free agent get away for nothing. It's breathtaking.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Even with the cap increasing, RJ's contract would have been unaffordable in a couple of years. Hayward and Gobert (and then Favors) are going to cripple the Jazz unless they all take less than their market value.
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George Hill for Kawhi Leonard. Having talent is a good problem.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The Jazz found a way to let a very good (or at least valuable) restricted free agent get away for nothing. It's breathtaking.
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Let me help give you your breath back.

Last 10 games:
....OKC with Kanter on floor: +4
....OKC with Kanter on bench: +100.

Kanter, full Year RPM is 74th among 77 Centers
DRPM is 76th
ORPM is 10th (shows how terribly bad his defense is that is swamps whatever good he does on offense).

In 2 years, OKC will see this as a bad trade (if not already).
 
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