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Reggie Miller on Enes Kanter

McGary definitely has game, despite the fact he looks like the lovechild of Chandler Parsons and John Goodman.
 
Jazz Insider said:
lol. i know there are butts gettin hurt when i get negged for opinions. da kanter hate is pretty crazy. dont hate da playa. hate da game, bros. dont support da perp rebuild.
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Yep, it sure is a perpetual rebuild. Jazz will end up winning about 10 games more than they did last season, even with their starting SG missing > 1/2 the season and the backup hurt for long stretches. Please feel free to look up what OKC's records were when they drafted Durant, Westbrook, etc. They didn't go from 25 to 50 wins in one season. They actually went from 20 to 23 to 50. Not saying Utah will win 50 games next season. OKC had amazing drafts for 3 straight seasons. But it takes a few seasons to build a complete roster. Jazz are getting close. I think they make another couple of key roster changes this summer and challenge for the playoffs.
 
Flc said:
McGary definitely has game, despite the fact he looks like the lovechild of Chandler Parsons and John Goodman.
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i've seen the light. he is exactly that


mcgary does everything that kanter doesn't. imagine kanter with mcgary's BBIQ. he would've been nasty.
 
having said all that, kanter will have a good 2-3 years with thunder if they decide to keep him. but mcgary will eventually start for thunder if he can stay healthy.
 
Stifle Tower said:
They're not going to pay Enes $15M this summer.
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yeah, after what they've seen from mcgary, i don't think they will. and some idiots will always over pay for a big man with skills.

but if enes keeps playing well, and okc shock the world in the playoffs then what? they have no choice but to keep him.okc at full strength can beat GS. yes, that's a big if, but anything can happen - including not making the playoffs. they are the most intriguing team going into the playoffs for me. can't wait till the playoffs
 
Dumb Bloke said:
You've all been diddled by the Millers. Kanter would have looked just as good here and management knew it. They purposefully didnt surround and use Kanter correctly because they are cheap and tried to hold his value down. Being dirty like that blew up in there faces and now they look dumb to everyone not a Jazz fan. He was in the right demanding a trade for the way Utah abused him. Now he will shine and become a max player this summer. Higher max than Hayward.

I'm not getting nicked by this used car sales pitch. He's also a much better pick and roll defender than you claim. He was last in the league here because they kept switching his coverage to confuse him, and playing him with Burke instead of Dante. He only played 150 minutes with Dante and he looked damn good on defense during that time.
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So dumb


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Fabtrey said:
yeah, after what they've seen from mcgary, i don't think they will. and some idiots will always over pay for a big man with skills.

but if enes keeps playing well, and okc shock the world in the playoffs then what? they have no choice but to keep him.okc at full strength can beat GS. yes, that's a big if, but anything can happen - including not making the playoffs. they are the most intriguing team going into the playoffs for me. can't wait till the playoffs
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Still don't think they'd keep him. This is the franchise that gave up Harden to avoid the tax. They have plenty of bigs in Ibaka, McGary, Adams and Collison as their 4th. I think they're counting on teams with cap space NOT making an offer and then Enes deciding to wait until 2016 for a bog contract. That gives them Enes at $7.5M if he signs the QO.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Still don't think they'd keep him. This is the franchise that gave up Harden to avoid the tax. They have plenty of bigs in Ibaka, McGary, Adams and Collison as their 4th. I think they're counting on teams with cap space NOT making an offer and then Enes deciding to wait until 2016 for a bog contract. That gives them Enes at $7.5M if he signs the QO.
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right now it's a honeymoon period. okc is in love with enes. fans love him like if he is the answer to the championship near future. so if enes keeps this up, then i think okc will do whatever it takes to keep enes. they will have to make a tough decision for sure.
 
Fabtrey said:
right now it's a honeymoon period. okc is in love with enes. fans love him like if he is the answer to the championship near future. so if enes keeps this up, then i think okc will do whatever it takes to keep enes. they will have to make a tough decision for sure.
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Boy I hope so. That would be as bad of a decision as acquiring Kendrick Perkins - which was the main thing that cost them James Harden. They extended Perkins in 2011, knowing that they needed to deal with Ibaka and Harden in 2012. Honestly, considering the assets that they had at the time. . . imagine if the Thunder had just invested in their 4 homegrown guys - Ibaka, Durant, Harden and Westbrook. . . and then supplement that talent with depth and role players. That's essentially what the Jazz are doing. They just decided to not make Enes Kanter their Kendrick Perkins.
 
This argument about Russ overshooting is a bit ignorance of basketball knowledge because evem though he became persistent on breaking his cold streak he was the best option in most of his attempted shots. He just didn't score. [I removed the example here since it was against the forum rules and made people uncomfortable]
 
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addictionary said:
This argument about Russ overshooting is a bit ignorance of basketball knowledge because evem though he became persistent on breaking his cold streak he was the best option in most of his attempted shots. He just didn't score. When a woman has two options in front of her, a soft wiener and an erect one, the latter will find the hole while the other will just be a waste of time so she'll give the latter a chance.
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Ignorance of basketball knowledge, really? Man, I get it. You try to be the nice "son-in-law", but this *** kissing should stop. EVEN Westbrook himself said that he took the last game too many shots.

OKC fans must be ignorant then, too. Of course, you know it better than everyone. So, let's take a look again. Kanter was not playing yesterday. So he was not involved, no reason to take a side.

Read and learn. YOU; don't be ignorant just for the sake of "Utah Jazz fans should like me as a Turkish guy".

Russ has no idea when to do what. His shot has been off the entire second half but he's gone into hero mode and shot Portland right back into the game.
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No hero ball please.
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Russ going into "hero ball" mode has been our biggest downfall for the second straight game, though.
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Russ is the worst sometimes. His teammates might as well not even be out there when he does this ****. He makes it hard to watch sometimes. Every one of his teammates know they aren't getting the ball unless it's by accident.
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Russ said he shot too much and needs to trust his teammates...Yet he is in hero mode right now. Needs to work Ibaka in again.
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We absolutely need him to temper and balance out Russ' "hero ball" moments.
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Well I don't know how this is gonna end but I can pretty confidently say that Russ is gonna take every shot for us the rest of the game. Which is bad considering I don't think he's made a jumper in the second half.
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russ will never learn
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Russ didn't learn from last night, even after admitting he took too many shots.
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Russ is so ****ing dumb. Hero ball in full effect. Whatever gets drawn up here, it's not getting ran. We're winning of losing this on whatever Russ decides to do. Guy needs to wake up and realize he's so much better when he gets everyone involved. But he's never gonna change, it's his 7th year in the league, he is what he is.
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Triple doubles are pretty empty when you single handedly shoot your team out of two games in a row.
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I saw 2 wide open players.. Serge was just sitting there waiting for a pass he has a WIDE OPEN lane to the basket.. DJ even was sitting there at the wing of the 3pt line nobody on him.. Russ still just has to shoot over 3 people to try and win it the game..
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In the 4th quarter he ignored everyone and missed 90% of his shots
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He ignored everyone all 4th quarter tonight. His jumper was off and he just kept taking jumper after jumper.
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Serious question, does anyone remember another player besides Russ taking a single shot in the 4th? (Some guy answered that question that he remembers other 4-5 attempts from the rest of the team)
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Doesn't really matter who's out there when Russ goes into **** everyone mode. He's not ever passing the ball so no one else has a chance to do anything. We've all played with that guy at the gym that won't give the ball up. Gets frustrating when you're out there working hard on defense, knowing there's zero chance you're ever gonna see the ball on offense.
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Now, as everyone who is neutral can see, that Westbrook is like on selfish mode x2. No teamball at all. So, what has this with Kanter to do?
As I made my point, against the PHX Kanter would have had a 30/10 night, if Russ would slow just a bit. Or take this night. No different than the other night, but Kanter was not playing at all. So, people, maybe for the first game you could say that Kanter is just bad to play through him (only butthurts would say this) but this time Kanter didn't even play and all the teammates were ignored again. As we can clearly see that Kanter is not the problem here, Westbrook is. But keep being unfair.
 
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sepulchre said:
Now, as everyone who is neutral can see, that Westbrook is like on selfish mode x2. No teamball at all. So, what has this with Kanter to do?
As I made my point, against the PHX Kanter would have had a 30/10 night, if Russ would slow just a bit. Or take this night. No different than the other night, but Kanter was not playing at all. So, people, maybe for the first game you could say that Kanter is just bad to play through him (only butthurts would say this) but this time Kanter didn't even play and all the teammates were ignored again. As we can clearly see that Kanter is not the problem here, Westbrook is. But keep being unfair.
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Kanter is only able to dream about 30/10 because of Westbrook. He commands so much attention. It's unfair to say something like that. He's never been an adept playmaker for others. Man, Joe Ingles could have so many more assists if only he could score and put more pressure on the defense.
He makes an awful lot of boneheaded plays, but OKC gave up 68 points in the 2nd half last night, which seems a bit more problematic than anything Westbrook did. Do you really think they had a chance to win without him? Hate him because he gave the Thunder a chance to win the game? They probably wouldn't have been in it without him.
 
LazyD said:
Kanter is only able to dream about 30/10 because of Westbrook. He commands so much attention. It's unfair to say something like that. He's never been an adept playmaker for others. Man, Joe Ingles could have so many more assists if only he could score and put more pressure on the defense.
He makes an awful lot of boneheaded plays, but OKC gave up 68 points in the 2nd half last night, which seems a bit more problematic than anything Westbrook did. Do you really think they had a chance to win without him? Hate him because he gave the Thunder a chance to win the game? They probably wouldn't have been in it without him.
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Look, nobody is saying that Kanter can be compared to superstars. Of course it plays a big role if you have a superstar in your team so you can have a 30/10 night. But again, the being butthurt comes out of your first line. It sounds like Kanter was always averaging 5-8 points a game and that Kanter could only dream about it. This is not true. Kanter was always averaging 20/10. So, without the help he can make his own play. But with 10 FGA you won't get 30 points in a game. For that you need more attempts... So actually, Westbrook is the reason that he is NOT able to dream about a 30/10 because Russ goes crazy.

And Kanter commands so much attention? Really? Please, be neutral. 3 years he was ignored, when did you ever hear something from him?
And he is hungry, why is it a bad thing for wanting to play?
Look, don't see my comment. See the comments above from the OKC fans.
Nobody is saying that OKC is better without Westbrook. Just, we were talking about Kanter here. And don't put the mistakes from other players onto him. Like you say that Kanter commands so much. No, this is not true. Westbrook actually doesn't share a **** with his teammates. It is not commanding from Ibaka or Kanter, when they are ignored for half of the game. That is all.
 
sepulchre said:
Look, nobody is saying that Kanter can be compared to superstars. Of course it plays a big role if you have a superstar in your team so you can have a 30/10 night. But again, the being butthurt comes out of your first line. It sounds like Kanter was always averaging 5-8 points a game and that Kanter could only dream about it. This is not true. Kanter was always averaging 20/10. So, without the help he can make his own play. But with 10 FGA you won't get 30 points in a game. For that you need more attempts... So actually, Westbrook is the reason that he is NOT able to dream about a 30/10 because Russ goes crazy.

And Kanter commands so much attention? Really? Please, be neutral. 3 years he was ignored, when did you ever hear something from him?
And he is hungry, why is it a bad thing for wanting to play?
Look, don't see my comment. See the comments above from the OKC fans.
Nobody is saying that OKC is better without Westbrook. Just, we were talking about Kanter here. And don't put the mistakes from other players onto him. Like you say that Kanter commands so much. No, this is not true. Westbrook actually doesn't share a **** with his teammates. It is not commanding from Ibaka or Kanter, when they are ignored for half of the game. That is all.
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Should have been more clear. My references of 'he' are all concerning Westbrook
 
sepulchre said:
Look, nobody is saying that Kanter can be compared to superstars. Of course it plays a big role if you have a superstar in your team so you can have a 30/10 night. But again, the being butthurt comes out of your first line. It sounds like Kanter was always averaging 5-8 points a game and that Kanter could only dream about it. This is not true. Kanter was always averaging 20/10. So, without the help he can make his own play. But with 10 FGA you won't get 30 points in a game. For that you need more attempts... So actually, Westbrook is the reason that he is NOT able to dream about a 30/10 because Russ goes crazy.

And Kanter commands so much attention? Really? Please, be neutral. 3 years he was ignored, when did you ever hear something from him?
And he is hungry, why is it a bad thing for wanting to play?
Look, don't see my comment. See the comments above from the OKC fans.
Nobody is saying that OKC is better without Westbrook. Just, we were talking about Kanter here. And don't put the mistakes from other players onto him. Like you say that Kanter commands so much. No, this is not true. Westbrook actually doesn't share a **** with his teammates. It is not commanding from Ibaka or Kanter, when they are ignored for half of the game. That is all.
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People can't take advantage of the attention Russell commands and then turn around and say if he passed more they'd have bigger nights. That's what comes with it. If he was just some regular rotation guy that sat in the corner and waited for kickouts then no one would give a ****. Since he has the ability to make plays everything is magnified. They should be thankful for the pressure he puts on the defense, and hope he can improve his decision-making.
 
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