Regular Season Matters

[LoPo]

How often do teams that play poorly in the regular season win the title?

Good point. Non top 3 seeds rarely win the title. Sometimes mid-seed teams catch fire late and make long runs, but they can't get over the mountain completely.

I guess the crazy thing is that we can turn things around and go on a run to that 2 or 3 seed location, but would it matter with our lack of defense?

 

[LogGrad98]

Shortened season idea:

All teams play 52 games from November 1st to February 28th. This is 120 days, so no need for back to backs other than the odd scheduling conflicts.

First 2 weeks of February = all-star game and festivities - set play-in tournaments

Playoffs run with all teams, team 1 gets a bye in first round. Single elimination bracket essentially, all rounds best of 7. First 7 teams eliminated in each conference are in the lottery.

Should be nearly the same length as a regular season, minus regular playoffs, depending on how many series go longer.

This way more games matter more, and lower level teams have a chance. Imagine being the first 15th seeded team to somehow win it all.


Also what if we did a reverse tournament for the top 14 picks. Essentially a double elim tournament, winner gets 1st pick, and so on. Might make it so more teams try to tank knowing they can play for the first pick, but it would also mean every team would want to be good enough to compete for higher picks in the "lottery tournament". Something like that might be interesting.

 

[infection]

I thought we were up 3-1 vs the nuggets a few years ago.

We were, but that wasn't the second round.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

OK, now that we have firmly proved that being a top seed matters in winning a championship, I have a harder stat to look up for anyone interested.

How many championship teams had their regular season win total (or percentage for weird years) decrease from the previous year?

 

[LoPo]

OK, now that we have firmly proved that being a top seed matters in winning a championship, I have a harder stat to look up for anyone interested.

How many championship teams had their regular season win total (or percentage for weird years) decrease from the previous year?

A vast majority of the time, a #1 or #2 from East or West wins the title.

What's odd is that since the league reached its current number of franchises, the top overall seed (like we were last year I think) has only won it like 33% of the time.

To answer your question, I would say a majority

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

A vast majority of the time, a #1 or #2 from East or West wins the title.

What's odd is that since the league reached its current number of franchises, the top overall seed (like we were last year I think) has only won it like 33% of the time.

To answer your question, I would say a majority

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You making a guess does not answer my question.

 

[LogGrad98]

OK, now that we have firmly proved that being a top seed matters in winning a championship, I have a harder stat to look up for anyone interested.

How many championship teams had their regular season win total (or percentage for weird years) decrease from the previous year?

I can tell you the Bulls win totals went down from 92 to 93 and each year from 96 to 97 to 98. The warriors went from 67 wins to 58 win when they won back to back. The Lakers went down from 00-01 and from 09-10. So it seems to be pretty common. I only looked at a few that won back to back though. Not what they were if they didn't win the season before. Although the 73 to 74 Celtics went from 68 to 56 wins and won the finals at 56 but not 68. I imagine it has happened but not that often that way, where they had a better record the year before and didn't win it that year but did the next year with a lower win total.

 

[infection]

I can tell you the Bulls win totals went down from 92 to 93 and each year from 96 to 97 to 98. The warriors went from 67 wins to 58 win when they won back to back. The Lakers went down from 00-01 and from 09-10. So it seems to be pretty common. I only looked at a few that won back to back though. Not what they were if they didn't win the season before. Although the 73 to 74 Celtics went from 68 to 56 wins and won the finals at 56 but not 68. I imagine it has happened but not that often that way, where they had a better record the year before and didn't win it that year but did the next year with a lower win total.

Good. This can be the new media talking point. All really good teams win less regular season games on their way to a championship. The Jazz are in good company.

 

[fishonjazz]

We were, but that wasn't the second round.

Oh my bad. Thanks for the info.

 

[One Brow]

OK, now that we have firmly proved that being a top seed matters in winning a championship, I have a harder stat to look up for anyone interested.

How many championship teams had their regular season win total (or percentage for weird years) decrease from the previous year?

I presume you mean the non-repeating champions, since it's not unusual for repeating champions.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Teams not caring about regular season has nothing to do with fans.

 

[slc]

But teams have to win games to get to playoffs
Teams want to win games to get a top 4 seed
Teams have to win games to sell tickets and boost salaries
The regular season games do matter for some legit reasons