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Report: #5, Favors, Burks for Cavs' #1 pick

Yay or Nay?

  • Yay

    Votes: 68 56.7%

  • Nay

    Votes: 52 43.3%
  • Total voters
    120
Vermin said:
Kinda like a bottle in da club. Normally you would not pay a G for a bottle of goose cause that's just stupid. But damn that experience is first class.

I guess I hope wiggins gives us that taste of success we had for so many years. but yeah its overpay, because he can't do it himself and in fact we may regret giving up so much a few years down the line if we can't replace the parts we gave up.
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You are an idiot if you spend a G on goose no matter where you are. If you want to blow money have some class.

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Omg... Is Jabari the next Lebron?
So basically we've tried to tank to lose burks favors and fifth pick? I'm fed up with this Jabari love. Our team without Favors and Burks is worse than last years team. I'm mad right now... Favors AAAAAND Burks AAAAAND Vonleh for Jabari huh?
God, please don't let this happen.




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fufo said:
Omg... Is Jabari the next Lebron?
So basically we've tried to tank to lose burks favors and fifth pick? I'm fed up with this Jabari love. Our team without Favors and Burks is worse than last years team. I'm mad right now... Favors AAAAAND Burks AAAAAND Vonleh for Jabari huh?
God, please don't let this happen.




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If we offer all that I hope we take Jabari. I'd be happy with Wiggins if it was just Favors but if we throw in Burks I'd rather we took the somewhat safer pick. Parker's floor is higher. If Wiggins doesn't hit his potential we would become the Bobcats. We need a #1 offensive option.
 
heyhey said:
If we offer all that I hope we take Jabari. I'd be happy with Wiggins if it was just Favors but if we throw in Burks I'd rather we took the somewhat safer pick. Parker's floor is higher. If Wiggins doesn't hit his potential we would become the Bobcats. We need a #1 offensive option.
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Next years team will be a bottom 5 imo. Total disappointment for me. We took Jabari/Wiggins and lost almost all of our potential. What if we let Hayward walk then?
Worst team in Western Conference.


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fufo said:
Next years team will be a bottom 5 imo. Total disappointment for me. We took Jabari/Wiggins and lost almost all of our potential. What if we let Hayward walk then?
Worst team in Western Conference.


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That's the plan. We need to hit the jackpot in the draft at least twice to compete.


Our Potential was a 7th seed, at best.
 
Yes it is a lot to give up but it is nearly impossible to be a contender in the next years wit this roster + Vonleh/Smart/Gordon/Randle...EVERYONE of our talents have to reach their max-potential so it could maybe happen.

So if you have the chance to grab a young much more talented player, you do it and build around him. Otherwise you haven`t got any chance to land a top-5 player anyway.

We have to suck in the next years, that`s sure but if you have superstar-potential player it is much more excited to do.

Remember OKC also sucked after Durant (and got Westbrook and Harden) and after that they were/are legit contenders.
 
Too much. If Wiggins were Lebron, or had that upside, sure. I think he'll be good, but not Lebron good. He's not a sure fire superstar.
 
heyhey said:
If we offer all that I hope we take Jabari. I'd be happy with Wiggins if it was just Favors but if we throw in Burks I'd rather we took the somewhat safer pick. Parker's floor is higher. If Wiggins doesn't hit his potential we would become the Bobcats. We need a #1 offensive option.
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Neither guy is a sure thing. IT would put the Jazz in the lottery for the next 5 years if the Jazz give up all three assets to get one player and that one player doesn't live up to his potential. There is no way that Parker or Wiggins is worth Favors, Burks and #5 unless they become Lebron or MJ type players which isn't going to happen.
 
dd11 said:
Yes it is a lot to give up but it is nearly impossible to be a contender in the next years wit this roster + Vonleh/Smart/Gordon/Randle...EVERYONE of our talents have to reach their max-potential so it could maybe happen.

So if you have the chance to grab a young much more talented player, you do it and build around him. Otherwise you haven`t got any chance to land a top-5 player anyway.

We have to suck in the next years, that`s sure but if you have superstar-potential player it is much more excited to do.

Remember OKC also sucked after Durant (and got Westbrook and Harden) and after that they were/are legit contenders.
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OKC didn't trade away their existing talent. They just sucked and got lucky in the draft.
 
cowhide said:
Neither guy is a sure thing. IT would put the Jazz in the lottery for the next 5 years if the Jazz give up all three assets to get one player and that one player doesn't live up to his potential. There is no way that Parker or Wiggins is worth Favors, Burks and #5 unless they become Lebron or MJ type players which isn't going to happen.
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I don't think DL is happy with KOC's team. I can see him being ok with being high lotto for the next 2-3 years. 4 years from now Haywards "potential" will have worn off and we can probably resign him for something more reasonable. We still have 3 more GSW picks. We will have even more money if this goes through. It's not the end it's a beginning.
 
cowhide said:
OKC didn't trade away their existing talent. They just sucked and got lucky in the draft.
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You are right but is there any other possibility to land a (possible) top 5 player? Trading for Wiggins means starting from bottom again but you have to do it. This core is not enough to get a ring.
 
cowhide said:
Neither guy is a sure thing. IT would put the Jazz in the lottery for the next 5 years if the Jazz give up all three assets to get one player and that one player doesn't live up to his potential. There is no way that Parker or Wiggins is worth Favors, Burks and #5 unless they become Lebron or MJ type players which isn't going to happen.
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Agreed 200 percent.

That's what I'm trying to say. The Jazz seem blinded with Jabari affair.
This looks like a ridiculous, "Nba 2k" type trade to me. With a possible failure in Jabari's production Jazz will ruin all the efforts of post Deron era.


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fufo said:
Agreed 200 percent.

That's what I'm trying to say. The Jazz seem blinded with Jabari affair.
This looks like a ridiculous, "Nba 2k" type trade to me. With a possible failure in Jabari's production Jazz will ruin all the efforts of post Deron era.


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How many W's did that get us? Sometimes it's best to move on.
 
i voted no but i'm kinda torn on this.

burks & favors and the pick swap just seems like waay too much unless we get back something better than jack. (do not want waiters, although he is beastly. thompson maybe.)

but it's also true that you win the trade anytime you can get a bona-fide star without having to give one up. and after all the build-up of the past couple of years both wiggins and parker seem to have pretty reasonable chances of becoming outright stars in this league.

i'd be disappointed if someone else moves to claim the #1 but... i suppose we can only leave it in the hands of DL.
 
heyhey said:
How many W's did that get us? Sometimes it's best to move on.
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You're right but no need to give Burks... Favors plus #5 was reasonable. We don't have to offer that much. It's not even a high risk high reward situation. Huge risk maybe high reward.


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Smh someone is overvaluing Favors n Burks. Wiggins is 19 years old isn't he? You gays... I mean guys think that one year of college is enough to evaluate him in a KU offense?

Give me Wiggins... Or give me DEATH!
 
UGLI baby said:
Bros, I kinda want to watch the USA game at ESA on Thursday but also wanna be able to flip channels to the Ghana game.

#ThoseScreensTho
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forget previous post.

watch it at esa bro
 
fufo said:
You're right but no need to give Burks... Favors plus #5 was reasonable. We don't have to offer that much. It's not even a high risk high reward situation. Huge risk maybe high reward.


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If the sixers are bidding we do. They have the #3 and #10. They are supposedly shopping Young anyway and they may be willing to give up a future pick.


The risk is we have a few more low w seasons(was going to happen anyway) and we will have someone with potential that can be seen without beer glasses.
 
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