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Which would make the bigger story? Parker going to Mormonville or his hometown? I honestly say Mormonville; it's a more unique story and one that will never have a chance at happening again. We've seen players go to their hometown before.

Come on Stern/Silver, don't let me down.
 
spycam1 said:
Which would make the bigger story? Parker going to Mormonville or his hometown? I honestly say Mormonville; it's a more unique story and one that will never have a chance at happening again. We've seen players go to their hometown before.

Come on Stern/Silver, don't let me down.
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Isn't SLC his mum's hometown? That's close enough.
 
spycam1 said:
Which would make the bigger story? Parker going to Mormonville or his hometown? I honestly say Mormonville; it's a more unique story and one that will never have a chance at happening again. We've seen players go to their hometown before.

Come on Stern/Silver, don't let me down.
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I didn't know Stern/Silver were mormon? (i.e., why else would they care?)
 
ElRoach0 said:
This. Wish we could trade.

I'd trade Kanter and the Warriors pick for Thibs.
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I honestly think this kind of thing could be on the horizon for the Bulls. Thibodeau (sp?) has expressed frustration with the Bulls for not having extended Deng. Now after THIS, with their FO effectively throwing this season away and after everything else? I don't know. If the Bulls can get some assets out of a coach that might flat out refuse to be there next year and save money in the process?
 
spycam1 said:
Don't like a system where the big markets are getting the same draft picks as teams like the lolcats. The draft is a way to even the palying field for teams that have no chance in free agency (like the Jazz). If a team like the Lakers are still the hottest free agency destination AND they're getting top picks....****.

It could also turn the draft into free agency, in a sense. If you're a superstar like Wiggins and you see Milwaukee has the top pick in the draft this year, and the Lakers have it next year, you don't think there's a chance he might stay another year so he can go to LA?

These are just a few reasons. I wasn't sure how to feel about it at first, but it didn't me long to become very against it after hearing further analysis. There's a reason why so many teams are against it (hint: they aren't big market teams).
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I HATE this answer. Let me retort:

When Utah had John and Karl, what chance did they have in adding a player like Grant Hill, or Steve Nash?

ZERO.

What chance did LA have of adding Shaq? Big time.

Did you not look at the players the Jazz would have had access to by the slotted draft? There is no way Utah EVER has access to that many good players.

I honestly believe your opinion is short sighted and uninformed on this matter.
 
spycam1 said:
Still doesn't solve the problem of free agency.

And the whole idea behind the wheel is to give everyone equal valued picks. Well, not every draft is created equal. Imagine if the wheel was already in place and the Jazz had the top pick in 2013 and a ****ty pick in 2014. I'd be so pissed...and it would be because that was simply the hand my team was dealt; there was nothing they could do about it. At least with tanking you can TRY to take matters into your own hand (like the Jazz are doing).

There are so many things I don't like about the wheel, hard cap or no.
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It would all even out. Go back and look at my posts on this earlier and you will see that even with getting a "bad" draft, small market teams have exponentially greater access to top players than the current system.

Even with the cap the way it is right now, a slotted draft only helps good teams like Utah. Could you imagine adding a top 10 pick to Stockton and Malone or the Deron/Boozer/Memo teams? That is impossible for a small market team. Once a small market team gets their two guys, their team is done. No more drastic leaps in how good they can be.

A slotted draft changes that.
 
green said:
It would all even out. Go back and look at my posts on this earlier and you will see that even with getting a "bad" draft, small market teams have exponentially greater access to top players than the current system.

Even with the cap the way it is right now, a slotted draft only helps good teams like Utah.
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"Good" teams like Utah? They haven't been good in almost four years now.

And if this helps everyone as universally as it's supposed to (but it won't), how is any team supposed to be disproportionately helped?

green said:
Could you imagine adding a top 10 pick to Stockton and Malone or the Deron/Boozer/Memo teams? That is impossible for a small market team. Once a small market team gets their two guys, their team is done. No more drastic leaps in how good they can be.
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It is not possible for a top-10 pick to always yield a star. It is mathematically impossible. Furthermore, the reason the Jazz couldn't improve in those years was AK's back-breaking contract. The new CBA increased the hurdles a team over the tax have to get through to be even allowed to add that extra salary, and the teams that have been hell-bent on taking on that salary have eaten absolute **** for it thus far.
 
Sorry green but I just don't like the wheel no matter what you tell me about it.

Its interesting and I don't have a better idea but I don't **** the wheel
 
NUMBERICA said:
"Good" teams like Utah? They haven't been good in almost four years now.

And if this helps everyone as universally as it's supposed to (but it won't), how is any team supposed to be disproportionately helped?



It is not possible for a top-10 pick to always yield a star. It is mathematically impossible. Furthermore, the reason the Jazz couldn't improve in those years was AK's back-breaking contract. The new CBA increased the hurdles a team over the tax have to get through to be even allowed to add that extra salary, and the teams that have been hell-bent on taking on that salary have eaten absolute **** for it thus far.
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"good" = well run in my sense. The Jazz are a well run organization and have been planning for the tank for at least a couple of years.

Yup, it's not possible for a top 10 pick or a number one pick to always yield a star, so don't try. Great.

It gives small markets shots at players they never would have had a shot at. And, it gives small markets that are good a chance to remain good with good drafts. If you are a small market, your cycle is get good, hopefully make a run at a title, clean house, tank and repeat. With a slotted draft, there is never a need for a small market team to tank.
 
framer said:
Consider that we are talking about Cleveland, flushing picks down the toilet is kind of their thing. If they can trade a pick for a proven solid player, they need to do that rather than risk actually having to use the pick. Deng for a top 10 protected pick is a solid deal for them.
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It is a great move for Cleveland if they can re-sign Deng. I also think this might help with the courting of Lebron this summer.
 
If LeBron has proven one thing, it is that he won't make a move without at least 2 other all-stars to get him that next championship.
 
cowhide said:
It is a great move for Cleveland if they can re-sign Deng. I also think this might help with the courting of Lebron this summer.
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But what position would lebron play if he went to Cleveland? They have two guys who should start at the four (3 if you count verajao as a 4, and deng is for sure a small forward. If you play lebron as a point guard, then what do you do with kyrie?
 
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