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Bawse Dawg said:
What does Lindsey need to do to get an A? Lol

Best player in the draft at #13 (and he traded for that pick!). Every single signing and trade from last offseason (and mid season) has worked out.
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Not allow your franchise player to leave for nothing? Everything he has done outside of that has been spectacular though.
 
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Bawse Dawg said:
You would have traded Hayward in the middle of the season when we were playing great, for a draft pick when there was no reason to assume that we didn’t have a good chance of keeping him???? Really??

Good cheap contracts giving us good minutes. What free agents would have been better pickups at similar deals?
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Nobody is really blaming him. He's a victim of circumstance. But he was still the GM that watched the franchise player walk for nothing. Hard to call him perfect in the year that happened. Frankly it's a miracle his grade is not a C after that and the reason it's not is because all the other moves have been great.
 
cowhide said:
I would give Mitchell an A-, he has been great in many aspects but I want his understanding of the game to get better. When his 3pt shot isn't going then take it to the basket or pass it to an open teammate. Needs to watch turnovers late in the game.

Exum, I would give a B, he has played well but his sample size is too small.

Crowder, his grade is a C+ for me. He needs to know when he isn't making shots to move and pass the ball.

Rudy Gobert - gets an A- for me simply because he is Rudy Gobert. Watching him play defense against Minnesota was like watching a true artist perform. Rudy doesn't complain about not getting a lot of shots either. He plays hard on defense and should be the DPOY.

Derrick Favors - B+- almost an A- minus, when Favors plays well the Jazz are a far better team. Doesn't complain and his offense is overrated.

Jingles - gets an A from me especially most recent games. Best passer on the team, plays great defense and is more aggressive offensively. Besides he is the player that gets under other players skin.

Rubio- has played out of his mind lately. Was really bad at the beginning but I think he was just adjusting to have a new team. Still needs to work on his chemistry with Rudy, but I give him an A for improving his shot and working his butt off on defense.

O'neal - D on offense and an A- on defense so I give him a C+ overall.
Thabo - better than expected, sucks that he got hurt, I give him a B+.

Udoh- A on defense and a C- on offense. He always seems to play well when he plays.
Jereko - I give a B-, for the most part he delivers when he plays.
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I actually agree with this list.

With fishes list, I'd swap Exum's and Crowder's grade. I don't feel you can give Exum an A- with only played 7 games (?)
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I considered giving hood and jj a grade.
C- sounds right to me. For both of em
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Last night I was skimming through a game from a couple months ago on my DVR deciding whether to delete it. It was so weird to see Hood and then Joe Johnson out there. It feels like the team is completely different now.
 
gregbroncs said:
Nobody is really blaming him. He's a victim of circumstance. But he was still the GM that watched the franchise player walk for nothing. Hard to call him perfect in the year that happened. Frankly it's a miracle his grade is not a C after that and the reason it's not is because all the other moves have been great.
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That’s like saying you’d blame the president if an asteroid hit Earth during his time in office. Why would being a victim of circumstance apply to how he is graded for what he CAN control?
 
Bawse Dawg said:
That’s like saying you’d blame the president if an asteroid hit Earth during his time in office. Why would being a victim of circumstance apply to how he is graded for what he CAN control?
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He could have traded him. It did not seem to be in his best interest but he could have traded him.
 
started A with denver win to F with hawks lose then A again. crazy season lol


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It's DL's fault that Hayward left a year earlier than he should have. DL royally screwed up that contract. Would he still have left? Probably. But, we let our best player walk for nothing and some of you guys are acting like he's the slam-dunk executive of the year. He's done a good job this year, but he's been a really average GM outside of drafting.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
We were confident as fans the whole season that we could keep him. Anyone acting like it was always a forgone conclusion is rewriting history.
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are you moving the goal post intentionally did you just forget what you said. you said there was no reason to assume we didn't have a good chance at keeping him. do you really believe that? can you really not think of a reason there was a good chance hayward might leave?
 
I'll give my final report card after the Finals series the Jazz will be competing in. Have to wait to see who the East opponent will be first.
 
gregbroncs said:
Why would you want him to take more lower efficiency shots? I honestly wish the entire team especially DM would take less of those type of shots.
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I'm fine with his shot selection as of today. Right now he can get to the basket and finish efficiently. But I feel that having the ability to knock down shots from the dribble could open up other offensive opportunities for him and his teammates. I'm not asking him to take a higher volume of those type of shots but rather to show a glimpse of a more polished jumper and ability to shoot off the dribble. That will help him when teams start scouting him more and also during the playoffs when defenses could sag off from him. But hey, I'm being a bit picky, he has shown progress and I'm confident he will improve on those areas during the offseason (just as he did before the injury).
 
Bawse Dawg said:
That’s like saying you’d blame the president if an asteroid hit Earth during his time in office. Why would being a victim of circumstance apply to how he is graded for what he CAN control?
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Devil's advocate here. Although I'm with you in that DL has done a phenomenal job and tried his best to keep Haywood given the circumstances, I must say that he had SOME control, albeit small. As a GM, he had the ability to trade him (as unlikely or damaging it could've been). He also had access to more information than people who had no control over the situation. Just sayin.

Again, I'm with you on DL but just disagree in your statement that he had no control. He is one of the few people who had some power over the situation (unlike the asteroid analogy)
 
Man, I can't give nuthin but A+ and B's.

DL - A+ drafting Donovan and tha off-season bench signings? GMOTY
QS - A+ Has adapted to every single player strengths and gets them to expose opponent weaknesses on both ends. Look at the Vegas win odds pre-season. Plenty jazzfanzers are making money on that bet. COTY

Gobert A+ DPOY. Plays tough and hard when injured. D P O Y

DM A+ Dude is owning 4th quarters. ROTY

Ingles A+ Where the hell did this guy come from? Defenses are game planning around him now and he still finds a way to kill them. Look at his assists in low scoring games. MIP.

Bench: Udoh, Jerebko, Jae. A freaking plus. These guys perform whenever called upon.

Favors - A I wanted to see just a little more improvement but he has probably past his pinnacle. Tough luck, kid. He still gives it his all and helps his team win.

Neto - B- I wanted to see more improvement but he has shown up in enough moments to earn a B grade.

Exum - not enough sample size. May need to eat crow if current play keeps up.

Burks - C I had high hopes for this kid but he regressed. I'd give him a D- but he has accepted his role without complaining.

Royce - C looks good at times, goofball at others. Could be a breakout player if he pulls el heado out of el *******.
 
fishonjazz said:
Its about that time..... I have seen enough. I do this thread every year and I have a little time right now so I'm just going to do it now rather than wait 4 more games. Expectations will play a little part in the grades, injuries will not.

Dennis Lindsey: A- I know that he signed Rudy a while ago but Im still going to give him some credit for the great contract that we have Gobert on right now and that effects his grade. Getting udoh, thabo, and jerebko for so cheap was great. Trading for Crowder was a good move especially financially and team culture wise. Speaking of culture, this team has phenomenal work ethic and toughness, is fun as hell to watch and root for, and has good chemistry.... all under a pretty nice price tag. He has preserved future flexibility and we can make a run at superstar type player in a couple years. The Spida trade was maybe the best thing that ever happened. Also love that he signed stockton.

Quin Snyder: A The team is exceeding expectations and Quin has done a great job developing guys and fitting them to a system that works. The players buy in. His work ethic is reflected by his players. The Jazz, and Quin, never quit. Tough as nails. Rotations are on point.

Donovan Mitchell: A+ Superstar. Perfection on and off the court. Doing historical ****. Team leader already.

Rudy Gobert: B+ Only doesn't get an A due to my lofty expectations... but dude is the best defensive player in the league, best screener in the league, great rebounder, improved his free throw shooting, and is efficient on offense. He effects so much on the court that doesn't show up in the box score. All star caliber. Great attitude and brings everything he can every night. Still has issues with his hands.

Ricky Rubio: B+ He has had his shaky moments and to be honest, had a stretch where he was miserable and I wanted him to be traded for anything and everything..... But he might be the hardest worker on the court and has only gotten better and better as the season has went on. Is finishing the season at an all star level.

Joe Ingles: A- I didn't think he was worth the contract we gave him. I was wrong. 2nd best defender on the team, leads the team in assists most games lately as he has developed a wonderful pick and roll game with all our bigs. Most likeable guy on the team (sorry Donovan), one of the best three point shooters in the league and the ultimate glue guy to boot.

Derrick Favors: B+ Wow what a comeback year for him. Most unselfish player on the team. Dude is in a contract year and is a better player who could show more than we use him for and he still doesn't complain. What a bonus to have him healthy and what a luxury to have when Rudy isn't on the court. Thanks for working on the three ball to improve your game as well (even if it will never work). Getting all the offensive rebounds and dunking everything on everyone. Mid range game and floater has been consistently good. Defensively solid like usual. Wish he was a better free throw shooter.

Royce Oneal: C+ Came from out of nowhere and endeared himself to Quin with his work ethic, hustle, and tenacity. Had a stretch where he was ok offensively.... I miss those days but at least he is low usage. Plays fantastic defense consistently.

Jonas Jerebko: C Does what is asked and what is needed from him. Has had moments of being more than that at times.

Jae Crowder: B Probably the hardest guy for me to grade. I think he tries to do too much on offense sometimes but then again, our bench needs someone to score. Seems like a great team player. Plays good defense and stretches the floor. Grade would probably be lower but im giving him a break due to having to be the new guy and learn everything on the fly. Its a testament to him that he fits in and didn't screw up what we had going when the trade happened.

Thabo: A- I thought he was phenomenal compared to expectations. I miss his play. Brought way more offense than i could have imagined. Likes teh pot

Dante Exum: A- Looks better than ever before even after such a long time off. Still fast as hell and lengthy (and goofy lol). Seems stronger and smarter and more fearless than before.

Neto: B+ Played as good as you could hope for. has great handles and a huge improvement from 3. Steady. tough pesky defender.

Burks: D My expectations were for him to be a nightly subway sub of the game. Had a few good stretches but never worked out. Never complains and always seems to have a smile on his face (though you can tell that it hurts him to ride pine... dude loves to play basketball) figure he is pretty much done with his career in utah. RIP

(not gonna do grades for the rest of the guys who never play though it was cool to see stockton score a few points.)


Team overall grade: A- what a fun season....... hopefully the best is yet to come.
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Not sure I'd grade Dante that high, but Jerebko should be higher.
 
uncle f said:
Man, I can't give nuthin but A+ and B's.

DL - A+ drafting Donovan and tha off-season bench signings? GMOTY
QS - A+ Has adapted to every single player strengths and gets them to expose opponent weaknesses on both ends. Look at the Vegas win odds pre-season. Plenty jazzfanzers are making money on that bet. COTY

Gobert A+ DPOY. Plays tough and hard when injured. D P O Y

DM A+ Dude is owning 4th quarters. ROTY

Ingles A+ Where the hell did this guy come from? Defenses are game planning around him now and he still finds a way to kill them. Look at his assists in low scoring games. MIP.

Bench: Udoh, Jerebko, Jae. A freaking plus. These guys perform whenever called upon.

Favors - A I wanted to see just a little more improvement but he has probably past his pinnacle. Tough luck, kid. He still gives it his all and helps his team win.

Neto - B- I wanted to see more improvement but he has shown up in enough moments to earn a B grade.

Exum - not enough sample size. May need to eat crow if current play keeps up.

Burks - C I had high hopes for this kid but he regressed. I'd give him a D- but he has accepted his role without complaining.

Royce - C looks good at times, goofball at others. Could be a breakout player if he pulls el heado out of el *******.
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Good post. Basically all of our starters are A level players. Really good starting lineup. Some credit has to go to quin for developing them and using them properly and DL for getting them.
Bench is kinda meh but that’s why they are bench players. Most teams bench players are mediocre.

You forgot Ricky Rubio though. Probably an A as well I’m betting. Dude is playing as well as anyone on the team since January and is playing harder than everyone
 
I give out straight out A’s sans Burks. Pretty much impossible for me to give out less considering the consistent effort all these guys (sans Burks) seem to put forth nearly every day. Favors has been much better in this regard than season’s past imo. I don’t dock people based on clear limitations in their game as long as they consistently compete and are trying to improve. Dante is incomplete. Maybe an A- for Crowder - sometimes his shot choices make me cringe.
 
I pretty much agree with your grades, fish. Good job. Except Crowder. I'd give him a C. I'd say a C- or D but I have to consider the assimilation process. But yeah, his defense hasn't always been great. It seems like he makes dumb fouls too often. And his % are awful at 39.4%/32.8% and much of that is awful shot selection or just a flat out bad ability to finish at the rim. These are on him and no one else. If we can see him stay here and work on finishing at the rim (and his 3 point shot) this summer, and then relax and play smarter next year, I think he can hover around 45%/37%. I'd be content with that and see no reason he can't given his stint in Boston.
 
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