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Restore Moderation? Get Rid of the Electoral College

The Thriller

The Thriller

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I think most of us want moderation back into our political world. However, the Electoral College doesn’t encourage moderation. It favors increasingly rural and homogeneous states. It actually favors minority party rule, which is destroying this country as the population becomes increasingly more diverse and centralized in urban centers. As a result, most of this country have no say on who the next president will be. President pick judges and increasingly are setting the tone and agendas for their parties. The Republican Party since the 1960s has followed the “Southern Strategy” to dominate national politics. This has led to them courting an ever decreasing population size and an increasing extreme political agenda.

Without the Electoral College, Trump would be toast right now and the GOP would be planning to drastically change in order to Court new voters. Instead, Trump is still competitive and the GOP could easily plan on running an even more extreme candidate in 2024. Because of the Electoral College, Trump could still win re-election despite being so grossly unfit to run a Dairy Queen. In order to restore moderation in our country, we need to get rid of the electoral college. It would force both parties to tone down the rhetoric and to court all voters. Without abolishing the Electoral College, I see no incentive for the GOP to tone down the rhetoric and court voters other than whites in the handful of necessary electoral college states.
 
Not gonna happen. Without the EC, gerrymandering, and voter suppression, the Republican party would cease to exist in like 10 years. Sucks that as a Californian, my vote counts way less than someone in, say, Wyoming.
 
Most voters agree to abolish the EC. I would actually like to see elections where we can focus on the needs of all states vs. the same half a dozen.
 
zyzz said:
Not gonna happen. Without the EC, gerrymandering, and voter suppression, the Republican party would cease to exist in like 10 years. Sucks that as a Californian, my vote counts way less than someone in, say, Wyoming.
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It wouldn't cease to exist. It would have to actually adapt to survive (and it would).

Think about it, making the Republican party actually have to change its platform to be more popular among more Americans, what a concept! Both political parties, competing for votes from the general public? It would return us to moderation and compromise.

Instead, the Republican party has become a white grievance party. It has no incentive to change because the Senate and Electoral College keeps it in power. The less popular the Republican platform becomes the more powerful the institutions of the Senate and Electoral College become. We've seen through Trump, they don't actually care about legislating. As long as they can pass tax cuts, judges, and deregulation from donors, that's all that matters.
 
zyzz said:
Not gonna happen. Without the EC, gerrymandering, and voter suppression, the Republican party would cease to exist in like 10 years. Sucks that as a Californian, my vote counts way less than someone in, say, Wyoming.
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I disagree. Gerrymandering and voter suppression, to a large degree, support the same local/state levels that they benefit. Gerrymandering matters very little to the office of President (voter suppression matter more).
 
zyzz said:
Not gonna happen. Without the EC, gerrymandering, and voter suppression, the Republican party would cease to exist in like 10 years. Sucks that as a Californian, my vote counts way less than someone in, say, Wyoming.
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And as a Utahn, I feel it doesn’t matter who I vote for. The state EC votes will go to the Republican.


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The Thriller said:
It wouldn't cease to exist. It would have to actually adapt to survive (and it would).
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My bad, this is what I meant. Their Overton window has shifted so far right, it's ridiculous. It wouldn't surprise me if it shifts left if Biden and the Democrats win the White House/Senate. They would probably shift a bit left and say they were never big fans of Trump and that he wasn't a real Republican and so on and so forth...
 
I continue to vote mostly Democrat just because I want there to be less of a stranglehold by one party. Maybe my vote won't change any outcomes (no maybe about it), but I want my one vote to show up and prove that there are other people in this state besides Republicans. If we all stood up to be counted, we might be surprised at how many of us there are (moderates to liberals). Giving up only lets the powers that be believe that they have the right to a monopoly.
 
JazzGal said:
I continue to vote mostly Democrat just because I want there to be less of a stranglehold by one party. Maybe my vote won't change any outcomes (no maybe about it), but I want my one vote to show up and prove that there are other people in this state besides Republicans. If we all stood up to be counted, we might be surprised at how many of us there are (moderates to liberals). Giving up only lets the powers that be believe that they have the right to a monopoly.
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True.
On the other hand **** the whole system. I don't want to "win". **** the moderates, liberals, conservatives, Democrats, republicans. It's all BS.

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