Ric Bucher reporting Jazz have signed Randy Foye to a 1-year deal
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If Earl Watson or Jamall Tinsley nets us a 1st round pick I will jump for joy. It's not happening.
addictionary
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Well I still hope he'll contribute with new kind of talent to the team. I wonder if any of the Jazz dunkers other than Favors and Evans, a big one can take the role of Griffin for the alley-hoops.
I am excited to see the bigs get to work now that at any given time some combo of Hayward, Marvin Williams, Mo Williams and Foye will be stretching the floor. I want to watch Favors and Kanter get busy.
Edit: On a scale of 1-10 (10 being excellent) how do y'all feel the Jazz have addressed 3 pt shooting and stretching the floor? On defense?
Edit: On a scale of 1-10 (10 being excellent) how do y'all feel the Jazz have addressed 3 pt shooting and stretching the floor? On defense?
Stifle Tower
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And that wouldn't be all that bad. We can call teams and say take your choice: Watson, Tinsley or Foye. Likely that a trade would be to an Eastern Conference playoff team and perhaps net us a late 1st.
In any case, I agree with the late margodydek. Jazz have an incredible amount of flexibility on the roster and the defense and outside shooting have improved. We can lose (or trade) virtually anyone if the right deal comes along (save Favors, of course) - regardless of postion and we can either get players back or opt for draft picks. KOC likes to amass assets and he's done a nice job. Nothing flashy to date (what can we realistically expect in Utah?), although I think Mo and Marvin are undervalued on this board.
And the best part...no CJ, Raja or Howard. Josh had a great attitude, and I appreciate his contributions. But his shooting hurt us. The other two I'm happy to see gone.
9. It will be interesting to see if the Jazz actually break the top 20 in attempts this year.
Also, Locke did a podcast on Foye. Supposedly he comes from the projects of New Jersey and his dad died when he was 3, then his mom "disappeared" while selling drugs when he was 5. He does a lot of community work and seems like a really good dude.
I was thinking something similar. Jazz have the floor stretching tools now. Question is do the actually use them adequately?
I'm sure we will still be a paint dominated team, but I will be happy if we are around 20th in attempts. I will be really surprised if we crack the top 15.
Stifle Tower
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It's a cheap salary. A contending team that needs a good backup guard could give us back an expiring for the 13th/14th player on their team + a draft pick. Or best case, Foye has a decent year, has enjoyed playing with Mo in LA and now Utah, likes the other guys on the team and is the replacement for Watson and Tinsley next season.
I have no doubt Mo was instrumental in getting Foye to come aboard. They're both great guys outside of basketball. No bad apples on this team. I'd like to think that the atmosphere in the locker room may contribute to most of these players wanting to stay with the Jazz, especially those who have been through situations that haven't been too positive.
Homegrown guys I want to remain: Favors, Hayward, Burks, Kanter
Starters/6th men I hope play their way into new contracts: Mo, Marvin
Could be important backups: Foye, Murphy
Fan's Choice: Evans. Don't care if he plays 5 mins every other night. He's a keeper for the excitement he brings and his Jr. Jazz work.
Undecided: Millsap (love the guy, might hate the contract he demands), Jefferson (let's see how the inside/out game goes now that we have shooters)
Thanks for the great effort: Watson, Tinsley. Have to bring in a young PG at some point.
Meh: Carroll. Every team needs a 13th/14th player. DeMarre has a good attitude and great hair. Perhaps is replaced by our draft picks and/or other FA signings next summer.
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addictionary
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They will, if you melt them in last year's chemistry. The problem is, supposed over-achieving was the main reason for the chemistry, and being a contender might be the next step for keeping it up.
I agree. I still want the Jazz to be paint dominated. Just curious if they use the shooters enough to make that happen is all.
Those three attempted 128 fewer 3's than the Jazz. They combined for 38.8% while the Jazz team hit 32.3%. This would a good year for Big Al, Favors and Kanter to share the ball with the outside shooters more. Because the Jazz actually have outside shooters now.
Brown Notes
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IMO this guy is our backup point. He can bring the ball up the court, can shoot, is a good man defender. He'll initiate the offense and lurk on the perimeter.
utahjazz107
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This is Hollingers analysis on Foye:
+ Combo guard who can hit mid-range Js. Struggles running offense from point.
+ A natural 2 offensively, but can't defend 2s in post because of lack of height.
+ Draws a lot of fouls for a jump shooter. Excellent foul shooter. Poor rebounder.
Foye had a fairly pedestrian season overall, but one piece of encouragement is that he played much better as a starter in the second half of the season. Foye averaged 17.1 points in February and in 24 games as a starter averaged 18.0 points per 40 minutes, with better percentages to boot. Unfortunately, the starting shooting guard spot with the Clippers is fairly securely in the hands of Eric Gordon, so Foye needs to play well off the bench too. He was abysmal in that role last season, shooting 29.9 percent on 3s and 35.1 percent overall.
For the season as a whole, Foye's numbers were down largely because of a dip in shooting percentage. One suspects that will recover, but his reliance on the mid-range game remains a concern. He shot 39.5 percent on long 2s, which is solid, but combined with his humdrum 3-point shooting (32.7 percent last season, 36.0 percent career), it's a wobbly foundation for his offensive game.
For Foye, the trick is getting to the rim and drawing more fouls. He drew them at a fairly high rate in 2010-11 despite all the jumpers and is the most underrated foul shooter in basketball (he's made 89 percent each of the past two seasons). Indulging that part of the game more would offer big rewards if he can pull it off.
Nonetheless, he's somewhat a man without a position. At 6-foot-3, Foye was absolutely murdered on post-ups by bigger shooting guards, and he's a fish out of water playing the point. Eric Bledsoe's development could potentially help -- he's big enough that he and Foye can switch roles on defense -- but Foye's limitations make it harder to find him productive minutes.
I hope so. I've seen enough of Earl Watson look like a 12 year old trying to shoot on a 10' basket for the 1st time in his life.
How many SG's post people up and dominate? Kobe, Wade, uhhhhhhh, maybe Joe Johnson?
Doc Cherno
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I love it. 1-5 we've improved at each position either through new players or experience.
1) Mo -- upgrade over Harris
2) Foye plus Burkes -- upgrade over whatever committee we played here last year (Bell?!? C'mon.).
3) Mahvelous Marvin and Haywoody -- upgrade over CJ and however else we got by.
4 & 5) Increased experience across the board and some improvement from Big Al later in the year.
Coaching -- I think a lot of folks are forgetting that Corbin somehow got last year's team into the playoffs. Kudos.
And I love Burkes, but if he (or others) can't earn his minutes then he needs to sit and watch whoever is ahead of him.
1) Mo -- upgrade over Harris
2) Foye plus Burkes -- upgrade over whatever committee we played here last year (Bell?!? C'mon.).
3) Mahvelous Marvin and Haywoody -- upgrade over CJ and however else we got by.
4 & 5) Increased experience across the board and some improvement from Big Al later in the year.
Coaching -- I think a lot of folks are forgetting that Corbin somehow got last year's team into the playoffs. Kudos.
And I love Burkes, but if he (or others) can't earn his minutes then he needs to sit and watch whoever is ahead of him.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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does that mean I'm both crazy and astute as a fan?
Lets keep signing the Clippers former back court...get Chris Paul over here next year