Rigged - Kings vs. Lakers - Game 6
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Stifle Tower
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LA market vs. Sacramento market
No surprise.
No surprise.
Kings flopped and cried as much as anybody, and got their share of calls that series. Not sure it would have gone 6 if the Kings didn't get some extra calls earlier in the series. You guys are upset because for once the media told you to be upset. You and the media bought the act and were swayed by the crowd.
Even in the game 6, a lot of those calls people are crying about were reasonable calls. The elbow at the end was unfortunate, but not unique, the ref that made the call had a bad angle of the elbow, but he had to call Bibby's tackle.
Even in the game 6, a lot of those calls people are crying about were reasonable calls. The elbow at the end was unfortunate, but not unique, the ref that made the call had a bad angle of the elbow, but he had to call Bibby's tackle.
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I have friends from Northern California who haven't watched the NBA sense this series. They tell, in retrospect, that it was the best decision that they have ever made in their lives.
I can't remember how often I have sworn off the NBA... only to come back. <sigh>
I can't remember how often I have sworn off the NBA... only to come back. <sigh>
freakazoid
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Take a look at the video.
The first 2 clips that the announcers are telling us to be outraged about.
#1 The video shows nothing. You can't tell from that clip if Vlade fouled or not.
#2 Bibby was not fouled, and the announcers are going crazy saying he was.
This are the best 2 clips they can lead their biased call for outrage with?
Fast forward to the last clip. You know as well as I do that elbows to the face have not been called tens of thousands of times in the NBA. I rail against this as much as anybody, but that call was not that unusual, especially back then a decade ago.
I have studied this series to examine the calls. You have not. If you turn off the sound, and just study the video of the whole series with an open mind, you'd see that the Kings got their share of calls in the series.
As a team, they may have been the biggest floppers and criers of all time. They flopped and argued and cried so much in that series it was contagious -- to their teammates, the crowds, the announcers, the media, and the fans at home. You were caught up by public opinion and are mistaken.
The first 2 clips that the announcers are telling us to be outraged about.
#1 The video shows nothing. You can't tell from that clip if Vlade fouled or not.
#2 Bibby was not fouled, and the announcers are going crazy saying he was.
This are the best 2 clips they can lead their biased call for outrage with?
Fast forward to the last clip. You know as well as I do that elbows to the face have not been called tens of thousands of times in the NBA. I rail against this as much as anybody, but that call was not that unusual, especially back then a decade ago.
I have studied this series to examine the calls. You have not. If you turn off the sound, and just study the video of the whole series with an open mind, you'd see that the Kings got their share of calls in the series.
As a team, they may have been the biggest floppers and criers of all time. They flopped and argued and cried so much in that series it was contagious -- to their teammates, the crowds, the announcers, the media, and the fans at home. You were caught up by public opinion and are mistaken.
I am not a Laker fan, but Shaq played really well in that series. Sorry that Funderburk or whatever his name was couldn't match up with Shaq at the top of his game. He was the only guy on the Kings that really got the short end of the stick for the series, but I don't hear you whining over similar treatment Jazz backups and some starters got hundreds of times in similar situations. For some reason it is taboo to complain here about the treatment Keefe, Foster, Collins, Ostertag, Crotty, Eisely, Polynice etc got, but we're supposed to be outraged over one time it happened to a Kings player.
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Ha ha, I actually was somewhat partial to the Kings in that era.
Bobby Jackson was one of my favorite players. I liked Christie standing up to Kobe. I had great respect for Bibby's talent. Divacs was entertaining to watch. I was no fan of Kobe or Shaq. It was a long time ago, so i don't remember, but I probably was sympathetic to the Kings like everybody else during game 6. I'd like to be able to see what I wrote on the message boards at that time.
I think it is only recently when I went back and reviewed the series that I realized that it wasn't just Divacs who flopped , played dirty, cried and got lots of calls, the whole team did.
Bobby Jackson was one of my favorite players. I liked Christie standing up to Kobe. I had great respect for Bibby's talent. Divacs was entertaining to watch. I was no fan of Kobe or Shaq. It was a long time ago, so i don't remember, but I probably was sympathetic to the Kings like everybody else during game 6. I'd like to be able to see what I wrote on the message boards at that time.
I think it is only recently when I went back and reviewed the series that I realized that it wasn't just Divacs who flopped , played dirty, cried and got lots of calls, the whole team did.
The refs gave the Lakers a big edge in the 4th quarter of game 6, and may have been conspiring to extend the series to a game 7, but individually these calls were not that unusual. What is unusual is the media noticing, and expressing outrage. A defender draws an offensive foul while sliding his feet. A defender is called for a foul trying to deny position in the paint to a superstar. We've seen these things a thousand times. I'd say the worst call was the one against Bibby defending a Kobe jump shot.
Videos could have been made of other quarters in the series showing that the refs were favoring the Kings.
Videos could have been made of other quarters in the series showing that the refs were favoring the Kings.
UGLI baby
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I HATED the kings back then. But no team can match my hate for the Lakers.
That Horry tip-out 3 at the buzzer was the most ridiculous thing ever. Was watching that game with a room full of Laker fans and seriously wanted to die.
freakazoid
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Sorry, I didn't mean to attack you personally. My only intention was to state a fact, which is that you are a dumbass who doesn't know the difference between your *** and a rock on the ground, let alone have the slightest clue. Next time I will try to be more clear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Donaghy
Sorry, I didn't mean to attack you personally. My only intention was to state a fact, which is that you are a dumbass who doesn't know the difference between your *** and a rock on the ground, let alone have the slightest clue. Next time I will try to be more clear.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to freakazoid again
Because if the Kings have to win 5 games in a seven game series and the Lakers have to win 3 games in a 7 game series, that's totally fair.
Great point.
You are defending one of the most notoriously unfairly officiated games in the history of the league. No one will agree with you and the facts don't back up your position. Numerically the numbers don't support that the Kings got parallel calls to even things out. The Kings got screwed in Game 6. That's the way it is.
Wilbon is an objective reporter on this series and this was his contemporary column in 2002:
I remember watching that game and Wilbon's response echoes my own. What happened on that night was utterly outrageous and it swung a championship.
I'd really like to watch the series again. I'm not sure when I'll have time to do that though.
sticky, I have conceded that the Kings got more calls in that one quarter.
but the coverage is not looking at all the flopping and calls favoring the Kings in the rest of that game and the rest of that series,
nor is the media making any effort to give similar examination and evaluation to inequities in any other playoff series...
4 things were special here,
1. The Kings had a superior record and a lot of public interest, and therefore high expectations.
2. The bad calls were concentrated in one quarter when the Kings could have clinched it.
3. The Kings were incredibly good at flopping and crying.
4. The announcers failed to give the benefit of the doubt to the referees as they normally do, and expressed emotional outrage at some calls, including some calls that were close calls, and even some correct calls.
I was probably the most vocal outspoken critic in the entire world of ref favoritism of star players like Shaq and Kobe for years leading up this series, possibly even influencing the media coverage in this instance, but upon an extensive review that no one else has done to my knowledge, I don't think it was as outstanding an example of one-sidedness as posterity has recorded.
What do you want me to do here?
I admit that the refs , whether intentional or not, gave too many calls to the Kings in that one quarter. If they made all those calls correctly , the Kings would likely have won that game, notwithstanding all the calls made in the rest of the game and series.
but the coverage is not looking at all the flopping and calls favoring the Kings in the rest of that game and the rest of that series,
nor is the media making any effort to give similar examination and evaluation to inequities in any other playoff series...
4 things were special here,
1. The Kings had a superior record and a lot of public interest, and therefore high expectations.
2. The bad calls were concentrated in one quarter when the Kings could have clinched it.
3. The Kings were incredibly good at flopping and crying.
4. The announcers failed to give the benefit of the doubt to the referees as they normally do, and expressed emotional outrage at some calls, including some calls that were close calls, and even some correct calls.
I was probably the most vocal outspoken critic in the entire world of ref favoritism of star players like Shaq and Kobe for years leading up this series, possibly even influencing the media coverage in this instance, but upon an extensive review that no one else has done to my knowledge, I don't think it was as outstanding an example of one-sidedness as posterity has recorded.
What do you want me to do here?
I admit that the refs , whether intentional or not, gave too many calls to the Kings in that one quarter. If they made all those calls correctly , the Kings would likely have won that game, notwithstanding all the calls made in the rest of the game and series.
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