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Duck Rodgers said:
Your problem is you seem to think their core is worth building around. I'm not seeing it. There's been lots of trade rumor talk over MCW over the years, so Philly might not even like him also. 90% of these guys they are "developing" won't be around in a few years. Where's Philly's Kevin Durant, Westbrook, Harden since you wanted to make that comparison? The talent levels they are working with are worlds apart.
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If Embiid can get healthy, then he is a great piece.

Also really like Saric, whenever he is coming over.

I really hope they start signing FA next year though.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Your problem is you seem to think their core is worth building around. I'm not seeing it. There's been lots of trade rumor talk over MCW over the years, so Philly might not even like him also. 90% of these guys they are "developing" won't be around in a few years. Where's Philly's Kevin Durant, Westbrook, Harden since you wanted to make that comparison? The talent levels they are working with are worlds apart.
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Embiid has a special talent level. Just look at how rapidly he developed. He stays healthy he'll be very good.
 
BTP said:
The thing is revenue sharing. Philly is the 3rd/4th/5th biggest market in the league and contributes NOTHING. They sport a team that couldn't win a BO5 vs a EuroLeague quarterfinalist and would prolly lose 3/10 games vs EuroCup final round teams.

Philly's games are so distastefully bad that it also causes other teams to charge less for the Philly games because no one cares to watch them.
If you're this openly tanking that hurts the league's revenue and that's why Cuban is pissed. I mean there's other tanking candidates. But you know they build culture and preserve illusion that's good for both the system and the game itself. Other tanking campaigns had the goal to be bad. This one's goal is to be THE WORST. That's the problem.
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I can guarantee when it comes time for Dallas to rebuild, Cuban will do whatever he has to, to get his team back on top as soon as possible. As for your statements about Philly, ticket sales in opponents arenas are really no different than any other really bad team. I'd be interested in hearing exactly which moves they've made that are so much worse than any other tanking team. Where, exactly, is this line between acceptable tanking, and unacceptable tanking? It sounds like you believe tanking is ok, just as long as you don't do a good job at it.

Cy;937724g said:
No, kind of like how their team is laughably devoid of talent outside of 3 players. Hard to develop those 3 pieces when you can't even play NBA level basketball. The Warriors tanked, especially at the end, but never like this.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I took your post as a comment on tanking, not personnel. If I'm wrong, then you must be fine with their rebuild, had they only acquired different players. Is this the case? If not, I gotta say that the comments about GS were basically the same. Shameful way to build a team, won't work, losing culture will take hold, etc.
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Also, as far as Utah being smarter, overall that is probably true. However, if you're talking about how our rebuild started, Utah could have been smarter. Our rebuild should have begun the minute Deron was traded. Timing is everything in a rebuild, and hesitating to accept the situation can burn you, which IMO, is exactly what happened to Utah. Trading Deron when they did was brilliant, but the failure to follow up by dumping Al or Sap for pick/s was a mistake that has set this rebuild back, IMO.
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How about GS. Would you consider their FO to be smart?
 
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Cy said:
If Embiid can get healthy, then he is a great piece.

Also really like Saric, whenever he is coming over.

I really hope they start signing FA next year though.
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I would trade Kanter for Saric, but I doubt they would. He would be an ideal stretch 4, although his lack of length would hurt on defense and rebounding. I really love Saric though.
 
Hantlers said:
I would trade Kanter for Saric, but I doubt they would. He would be an ideal stretch 4, although his lack of length would hurt on defense and rebounding. I really love Saric though.
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I like him, but I feel like we have a bigger need for athletes and shooters.
 
GS has been brought up, but how about Oklahoma City?
They went with youth three years in a row and let that talent develop, knowing they would be near the top of the lottery every year: Durant (2), Westbrook (4) Harden (3) and also Ibaka (24). They executed a rebuild via the draft to perfection. Oh yeah, don't forget they also dumped their veterans (Ray Allen and Glen Davis) in exchange for the 5th pick which became Jeff Green. Where are the haters who say they should have signed FA's and tried to make the playoffs instead of playing for draft picks?

Now I'm not saying any of the players Philly has are equal to those above. But the potential was certainly there when the strategy was laid out. I'm sure Philadelphia was hoping to get their "Durant" by drafting Wiggins or Parker. Noel was also projected as a top-3 pick had he been healthy 2 drafts ago. Add an almost certain top-3 pick this season and they'll have a ton of talent. McDaniels looks like a steal and Wroten is solid. MCW is much like Trey Burke. Sure they want to upgrade if possible and get a more reliable shooter at PG - so do we.

As some have stated, Jazz should have gone down this road earlier (when Deron was traded). Instead we were a fringe playoff team, fighting for the 8th seed (and the privilege of getting swept) and drafting late in the lottery (or not at all). We should have had both the GS pick by finishing with a worse record AND our own (it was lottery-protected, IINM).
 
Will this Sixers team go down as the worst in NBA history?

Gotta admire the boldness of their rebuild. **** playing it safe (like Utah did for so long). It'll be interesting to see if it works out for them. Embiid's health is the main key. If he can get on the court and stay there, he could eventually take the league by storm like Davis is doing now.
 
Stifle Tower said:
And where is the line between rebuilding and tanking?

Sorry, I see a Philadelphia franchise committed to their young players, and refusing to outbid other teams for mid-tier FA's who would play in front of those youngsters. After the butt-kicking they took in Dallas, they came back and almost won at Houston.

Philadelphia got something for their veterans at the trade deadline; Utah just let theirs walk without getting any compensation. Which is the smarter team?
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I don't remember what philly got for Evan turner or spencer hawes, but I remember it being comically little for productive nba players. Philly gave away their players just to get rid of them.
 
spycam1 said:
Will this Sixers team go down as the worst in NBA history?

Gotta admire the boldness of their rebuild. **** playing it safe (like Utah did for so long). It'll be interesting to see if it works out for them. Embiid's health is the main key. If he can get on the court and stay there, he could eventually take the league by storm like Davis is doing now.
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Pretty sure they said on NBAtv that their 0-11 start is now the worst ever.
 
b_line said:
I don't remember what philly got for Evan turner or spencer hawes, but I remember it being comically little for productive nba players.[SUB] Philly gave away their players just to get rid of them[/SUB].
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Turner was traded with Lavoy Allen for Danny Granger and a 2nd. Hawes was traded for a couple of scrubs and two 2nds. Rebuilding moves. Some are better than others, but I don't see anything too outlandish.
 
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b_line said:
I don't remember what philly got for Evan turner or spencer hawes, but I remember it being comically little for productive nba players. Philly gave away their players just to get rid of them.
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Philly got what was offered. Neither of those players was in their plans, They had zero interest in offering them contracts. At least they got SOMETHING! Contrast that with Utah which got nothing for players like Carroll, Millsap, Jefferson, Foye and Marvin Williams. Now I do admit the size of some of those contracts made trades difficult, but you would think we could have perhaps gotten second-rounders for a few of them.
 
No worries, Philadelphia is bringing Furkan The Savior Aldemir. They are now my favorite in the 2015 NBA finals.

https://www.libertyballers.com/2014/11/24/7275659/furkan-aldemir-joining-sixers-galatasaray-contract

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