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From all accounts RW was a stand up guy - did a lot with the USO, Comic Relief. Is there ever a more helpless feeling to see a loved on crushed by depression?

Having said that I am not looking forward to the avalanche of accolades on a guy who was a fair to middling talent at best. Easily one of the most over-rated comics of our time. If you strip away all the horrible comedic films he did over the years (really try to name 5 good ones) he probably would have had a more productive career as a dramatic character actor.

At the end was there anyone who found him funny other than other comedians? His last stand up special (Weapons of Self Destruction or something like that) was cringe worthy - he was truly resting on his laurels at that point.
 
candrew said:
From all accounts RW was a stand up guy - did a lot with the USO, Comic Relief. Is there ever a more helpless feeling to see a loved on crushed by depression?

Having said that I am not looking forward to the avalanche of accolades on a guy who was a fair to middling talent at best. Easily one of the most over-rated comics of our time. If you strip away all the horrible comedic films he did over the years (really try to name 5 good ones) he probably would have had a more productive career as a dramatic character actor.

At the end was there anyone who found him funny other than other comedians? His last stand up special (Weapons of Self Destruction or something like that) was cringe worthy - he was truly resting on his laurels at that point.
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I found him funny in bits but you're correct, his resume is far from impressive.
 
For those of you who lack compassion or tact, I feel bad that you did not have parents to raise you better.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
This seems wildly out of character for you. I'm curious about your thoughts here.

Also, while it was suicide, I heard he'd been in rehab again recently so I have to wonder if drug use played a role in this at all.
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I'm not saying depression isn't a real disease because it is. There are many people who battle it and find the strength to go on. I have had loved ones and a very dear friend who was like a brother to me take their own life and the damage left behind is also immeasurable. If you're that low, continue to try to get help. It's his wife and loved ones that I would shed the tears for. They are the ones who deserve the tears because they are the ones left behind to wonder what they might have done, even if it's nothing. I am watching some good people battle for each and every day so I just can't work up the tears for someone who saw no way out. Sorry.
 
YB85 said:
I'm not saying depression isn't a real disease because it is. There are many people who battle it and find the strength to go on. I have had loved ones and a very dear friend who was like a brother to me take their own life and the damage left behind is also immeasurable. If you're that low, continue to try to get help. It's his wife and loved ones that I would shed the tears for. They are the ones who deserve the tears because they are the ones left behind to wonder what they might have done, even if it's nothing. I am watching some good people battle for each and every day so I just can't work up the tears for someone who saw no way out. Sorry.
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Pretty much how I feel.
 
YB85 said:
I'm not saying depression isn't a real disease because it is. There are many people who battle it and find the strength to go on. I have had loved ones and a very dear friend who was like a brother to me take their own life and the damage left behind is also immeasurable. If you're that low, continue to try to get help. It's his wife and loved ones that I would shed the tears for. They are the ones who deserve the tears because they are the ones left behind to wonder what they might have done, even if it's nothing. I am watching some good people battle for each and every day so I just can't work up the tears for someone who saw no way out. Sorry.
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I don't disagree at all. I was just wondering. That's all. Keep it real.
 
YB85 said:
I'm not saying depression isn't a real disease because it is. There are many people who battle it and find the strength to go on. I have had loved ones and a very dear friend who was like a brother to me take their own life and the damage left behind is also immeasurable. If you're that low, continue to try to get help. It's his wife and loved ones that I would shed the tears for. They are the ones who deserve the tears because they are the ones left behind to wonder what they might have done, even if it's nothing. I am watching some good people battle for each and every day so I just can't work up the tears for someone who saw no way out. Sorry.
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So is your argument that because he couldn't find the strength to go on, he's a coward?
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
You don't find his act selfish? I'm just asking.
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This is not so cut and dried imo. Help doesn't always help, and often all that help does is make things barely bearable. How long do you want to watch someone languish? Is it selfish of everyone around him to NOT want him to have his release? People that haven't been there cannot understand the despair and pain or how pervasive it is or how alone you can feel because no one else can really understand what you are going through. I can say from experience that it easily rivals cancer treatment, only with cancer at least I knew when my treatment was supposed to be over. With depression people think there is also a light at the end of the tunnel, but often it never gets any closer. Is this potentially an argument for assisted suicide? Moments of lucidity merely become moments that remind you how much you have lost and serve to reinforce the fear that you will never get it back.

I have no idea the answers to those questions, but I think they have to be asked.
 
Its not for us to judge his actions. Give prayer to those that loved him and are truly affected. Give prayer to him so he may find a greater rest then he did on earth. Don't lower your self by judging him or his life. Again that's not for us. What is for us is to seek out those that are in the desperation that ultimately leads to this type of self destructive behavior and try to help them see what a gift life truly is. We are not the Lord and don't have the authority to make his claims.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
You don't find his act selfish? I'm just asking.
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Isn't claiming suicide selfish a little bit of a stretch? Is it selfish to not want to feel the pain of hunger? Is it selfish to want not to be pinched by the bully that was held back two years in a row? Is it selfish to want not to be beat up because you're a guy and like spice girls in Junior high? Is it selfish to not break up with a woman that no longer loves you but you fear being alone?

How about not getting blood drawn because you nearly, if not, pass out every time a need pierces your skin?

How about blowing off your toe because you don't want to die in a war you don't believe should be fought?

Shooting your buddy and eating him after being caught because your captors said one of you can eat the other, or we'll kill both of you?

Where, exactly, do you draw the line? More importantly, who exactly would you(or anyone else) think they are to decide where that line is?

Pain is pain. There are people that care, and that's enough for those that aren't sick. But often enough, those that are mentally ill just can't take it long enough to figure out what it takes not to be in that depth of mental anguish all the time.
 
I can see how some think it's selfish, but I'm certain that he didn't do it to hurt those left behind or with the intent to be selfish....... dude was in alot of pain I'm sure and just got tired of the pain and didn't want it anymore.

I'm not gonna hate on a dude just because he wanted relief from pain.

I think if people really don't want to live anymore then they shouldn't have to.
 
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