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Rondo Trade?

I think Rondo is doing in fine in New Orleans. Don't know why they would dump him for nothing.
 
I've always liked Rondo, but I find Rubio to be a much better fit for this team. I think there ability is pretty on par with each other, Rubio is a much better teammate though.

Look at how DM responded on twitter to the suggestion that we should trade Ricky. His response was "Hell No". Do we want to threaten chemistry like that to gamble on a older player with a history of butting heads with both his coaches and teammates?

I get that some players have enjoyed Rondo, but others enjoyed Ron Artest and Lance Stephenson. I wouldn't take either of those players either. Rubio has already earned to respect and trust of the organization and I think that says enough.

If we traded AB for Rondo just to dump his salary it would be a waste of Burks talent. As others have mentioned he's coming off some pretty serious injuries, I see him recovering his old self with each game. Wait for him to get his avg back up to 15ppg and then look to trade for more value then just a salary dumb.
 
Actually a lot of people love him. I think the Dallas situation was just strange. I don't see him working in Utah though. In New Orleans he can play like he did in Boston, playing off legitimate super-stars. He couldnt do that in Utah.
He was also a problem in Boston. He's the reason Ray Allen left.
 
I don't know why this thread came back, but all I will add from here is 2018 free agency is a complete waste of time for this organization, so Rubio's and Burks' contracts don't really bother me. 2019 is where it is at.
 
You are the most fragile person on this website.

Yeah, I was pretty upset back in June....

I wouldn't cause it fragility as much as a Cy trigger response. He just gets under my skin and he knows it. Wish he had more of a life than taking shots but what can you do right?
 
Yeah, I was pretty upset back in June....

I wouldn't cause it fragility as much as a Cy trigger response. He just gets under my skin and he knows it. Wish he had more of a life than taking shots but what can you do right?
There's a block function I have yet to figure out *shrug*.
 
There's a block function I have yet to figure out *shrug*.

Yeah, I find it better to evolve through my issues with people than just avoid the people. At the end of the day, we do all have the same common goal right?
 
Yeah, I find it better to evolve through my issues with people than just avoid the people. At the end of the day, we do all have the same common goal right?
I suppose, but sometimes it's not only okay, but sensible and wise to understand the fundamental nature of something and to deal with it on those terms.
 
I don't know why this thread came back, but all I will add from here is 2018 free agency is a complete waste of time for this organization, so Rubio's and Burks' contracts don't really bother me. 2019 is where it is at.
Just out of curiosity, but who hits free agency in 2019 that the Jazz should target? I’m not being argumentative, just haven’t found any reliable information about who will realistically be hitting the market that offseason.
 
Just out of curiosity, but who hits free agency in 2019 that the Jazz should target? I’m not being argumentative, just haven’t found any reliable information about who will realistically be hitting the market that offseason.

Not many that we could realistically get but maybe: Nikola Jokic, Wesley Mathews, Devin Booker or Frank Kaminsky. A lot depends on if we make any moves this trade deadline.
 
Not many that we could realistically get but maybe: Nikola Jokic, Wesley Mathews, Devin Booker or Frank Kaminsky. A lot depends on if we make any moves this trade deadline.
If the Jazz clear out a Max contract slot by the 2019 offseason, who are the targets?
 
If the Jazz clear out a Max contract slot by the 2019 offseason, who are the targets?
Not to many that I think would come here, but Paul George will be available and the Thunder experiment isn't working as well as they hoped.

Kemba Walker will be available and could be possible as he will be demanding a max contract and is already tired of Charolet.

Chandler Parsons could be a good fit and could be purchased for pretty cheap with his play being down.

Klay Thompson would be a good fit but I doubt that he would want to leave Golden State or that Golden state would let him go.
 
If the Jazz clear out a Max contract slot by the 2019 offseason, who are the targets?
And how do the Jazz clear out a max slot? That pretty much means the Jazz let Favs, Hood and Exum walk this summer, essentially "tanking" another year. Mirotic is off the table, because even with him becoming a free agent, Jazz would still have his cap hold in place...unless they renounce him. So no reason to give up assets for him now.
 
If we traded AB for Rondo just to dump his salary it would be a waste of Burks talent. As others have mentioned he's coming off some pretty serious injuries, I see him recovering his old self with each game. Wait for him to get his avg back up to 15ppg and then look to trade for more value then just a salary dumb.

I agree with most of this except the part where Burks gets back his avg to 15ppg. That won't happen given our current roster. If you meant before the deadline, then Burks needs to score 31.2ppg until the deadline. By the end of the year? If so, he needs to score about 20.4ppg the rest of way. Highly unlikely.

He has some value as of today, unlike the first part of the season. Maybe one or two 2nds.
 
Wonderful points. Thank you for doing the math on needed ppg.

My main thought is that we have some tremendously talented players that are recovering from serious injuries. This season is lost because of injuries. Let's let the Burks, Hood, Favors have the time needed to reprove their true worth to the NBA.
 
If the Jazz clear out a Max contract slot by the 2019 offseason, who are the targets?
Klay Thompson, Jimmy Butler (player option that you can almost guarantee he opts out), Kristaps Porzingis (RFA who may force his way out, but all opportunities to pursue him should be pursued as he has been very publicly at odds with the Knicks [to the point that he's threatened taking the QO and walking in 2020 if they don't get their **** together]).

Also, Nikola Mirotic.
 
And how do the Jazz clear out a max slot? That pretty much means the Jazz let Favs, Hood and Exum walk this summer, essentially "tanking" another year. Mirotic is off the table, because even with him becoming a free agent, Jazz would still have his cap hold in place...unless they renounce him. So no reason to give up assets for him now.
Why does anyone think after last year that Favors is a necessary ingredient for this team's success? Why does anyone think Hood or Exum are either?

Not having those guys on the team is nowhere close to tanking. In the case of Favors, he's out the door, in the case of Hood and Exum, they're as likely to be cap-clogging role players (kinda bad salary) as they are to be net-positive assets.
 
I live in Louisville and grew up near the school Rondo played at before he transferred to Oak Hill. He’s a terrible locker room guy with a poor attitude. There’s no good reason to bring him into a team unless your top 2 point guards are hurt.
 
Klay Thompson, Jimmy Butler (player option that you can almost guarantee he opts out), Kristaps Porzingis (RFA who may force his way out, but all opportunities to pursue him should be pursued as he has been very publicly at odds with the Knicks [to the point that he's threatened taking the QO and walking in 2020 if they don't get their **** together]). Also, Nikola Mirotic.
I don't see any of those players coming to the Jazz other than Nikola. Klay is not going to leave one of the best teams in NBA history. Jimmy Butler is a big market guy. Kristaps Porzingis......... Maybe, and I would love it.

I think though that DM and Rudy with the right pieces (which I believe we have many of) Is a winning combination. Rudy and Donovan are young. Rubio is still young. Dante is young. I'm not ready to submit to a rebuild. We have two possible HOF players and really talented role players. Future looks bright.
 
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